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Bigbeer wrote:
Packers release La’Darius Smith. Davante Adams says he will not play under the franchise tag. But hey they got Mr.Panchkarma back.
Uh oh. What will Aaron do? I think Davante playing for the Pack was a big factor for Aaron to stay with the team…
Davante will play.
Bigbeer
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Bigbeer wrote:
Packers release La’Darius Smith. Davante Adams says he will not play under the franchise tag. But hey they got Mr.Panchkarma back.
Uh oh. What will Aaron do? I think Davante playing for the Pack was a big factor for Aaron to stay with the team…
Davante will play.
They have until July to sign him to a deal, which they most likely were going to do. Every day they wait costs them more money. If Christian Kirk is worth 21 million a year what is Adams gonna get.The Rube
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::I just don’t see Hunter working out for a odd front D. Not big enough to be DT. A stand up outside rusher has different read / keys / responsibility. On a even front he can be a terror as a DE.
Think of the rolling disaster it was when the Vikings traded for the guy from Jacksonville whose name I won’t even try to spell.
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I just don’t see Hunter working out for a odd front D. Not big enough to be DT. A stand up outside rusher has different read / keys / responsibility.On a even front he can be a terror as a DE.
Think of the rolling disaster it was when the Vikings traded for the guy from Jacksonville whose name I won’t even try to spell.
Yannick Ngakoue just got traded again today. This time from Vegas to Indy.
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I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
No doubt Rodgers has a big ego and wanted the financial love… but a trade like this certainly doesn’t raise his odds for success either. That offense should be easier to play D against without Adams to worry about on the outside. Seems like a very odd situation.
Bigbeer
::There’s still a few good receivers available plus Julio Jones soon. I guess they could have signed Adams to a cap friendly deal but I saw yesterday that even after all tue moves they’ve made they were still 18 million over the cap so I guess they solved that problem. Something most likely had to happen with Adams by Sunday and I’ll guessing they didn’t want to pay him almost 30 million a year. That would mean about 40% of their team salaries would be tied up in 2 players. College Hockey Addict
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Bertogliat wrote:
Beauner wrote:
I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
No doubt Rodgers has a big ego and wanted the financial love… but a trade like this certainly doesn’t raise his odds for success either. That offense should be easier to play D against without Adams to worry about on the outside. Seems like a very odd situation.
It certainly wouldn’t be easy to replace Adams but this year’s draft is suppose to be a good WR draft and the Packers now have two 1st round picks.
Personally I think the Packers should use both first round picks on QBs since picking Jordan Love (one first round pick) didn’t get them Rodgers replacement. If at first you don’t succeed try try again.
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::This makes sense. Rodgers may be a pompous prick, but he is smart enough that this would be the end result. He is always about AR12. [media]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504604755611504646 [/media] trixR4kids
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Hammy wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
Beauner wrote:
I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
No doubt Rodgers has a big ego and wanted the financial love… but a trade like this certainly doesn’t raise his odds for success either. That offense should be easier to play D against without Adams to worry about on the outside. Seems like a very odd situation.
It certainly wouldn’t be easy to replace Adams but this year’s draft is suppose to be a good WR draft and the Packers now have two 1st round picks.
Personally I think the Packers should use both first round picks on QBs since picking Jordan Love (one first round pick) didn’t get them Rodgers replacement. If at first you don’t succeed try try again.
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You stop it!!
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This makes sense. Rodgers may be a pompous prick, but he is smart enough that this would be the end result. He is always about AR12.[media]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504604755611504646 [/media]
I’m not a great NFL mind, but I think about how Sidney Rice got paid by Seattle after having Favre throwing to him. Didn’t do much at Seattle without Favre.
Will Adams be just as good without Rodgers throwing to him?
Hammy
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There’s still a few good receivers available plus Julio Jones soon. I guess they could have signed Adams to a cap friendly deal but I saw yesterday that even after all tue moves they’ve made they were still 18 million over the cap so I guess they solved that problem. Something most likely had to happen with Adams by Sunday and I’ll guessing they didn’t want to pay him almost 30 million a year. That would mean about 40% of their team salaries would be tied up in 2 players.
Julio has had constant injury issues and has a lot of mileage on him. His best days are clearly behind him. And no matter who’s they sign, it’s a step backward and it’s with a player that won’t have the same kind of chemistry with Rodgers.
I get that it comes down to finances but, IMO, this makes the Rodgers signing less impactful.
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This makes sense. Rodgers may be a pompous prick, but he is smart enough that this would be the end result. He is always about AR12.[media]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504604755611504646 [/media]
I’m not a great NFL mind, but I think about how Sidney Rice got paid by Seattle after having Favre throwing to him. Didn’t do much at Seattle without Favre.
Will Adams be just as good without Rodgers throwing to him?
The thing in Adams favor is that his college QB was Carr and he had talked about reuniting with him in the past.
Hammy
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It certainly wouldn’t be easy to replace Adams but this year’s draft is suppose to be a good WR draft and the Packers now have two 1st round picks:
I’m sure they will pick a WR high… but relying on a rookie when you’re a team that doesn’t have very good options on the team already doesn’t seem like a winning strategy.
Jefferson and Chase are unique players who went to teams that already had a pretty good WR on their respective teams (Higgins at Cincy and Thielen for the Vikes). It helps the transition as a rookie when teams can’t key on you.
Bigbeer
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There’s still a few good receivers available plus Julio Jones soon. I guess they could have signed Adams to a cap friendly deal but I saw yesterday that even after all tue moves they’ve made they were still 18 million over the cap so I guess they solved that problem. Something most likely had to happen with Adams by Sunday and I’ll guessing they didn’t want to pay him almost 30 million a year. That would mean about 40% of their team salaries would be tied up in 2 players.
Julio has had constant injury issues and has a lot of mileage on him. His best days are clearly behind him. And no matter who’s they sign, it’s a step backward and it’s with a player that won’t have the same kind of chemistry with Rodgers.
I get that it comes down to finances but, IMO, this makes the Rodgers signing less impactful.
JJ would be a decent signing money wise and as a veteran but he misses a lot of games. TY Hilton, Odell Beckham and JuJu SS would all be solid replacements but they’re gonna want almost as much as what they just refused to pay Adams and they obviously made that trade cause they can’t work the cap space. I could see them signing someone like Will Fuller and drafting a WR in the first round.
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JWG wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
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I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
You mean $153 reasons? He’s got a lot of guaranteed reasons.
I would not be surprised if ARodg took his guaranteed reasons, and just quit.
Boy would that be something. Leave GB in one hell of a hole. I really doubt that would happen, but still.
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::The QB carousel continues. [media]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504907130477981699 [/media] [media]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504907491888537605 [/media] trixR4kids
::The Rube wrote:
JWG wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
Beauner wrote:
I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
You mean $153 reasons? He’s got a lot of guaranteed reasons.
I would not be surprised if ARodg took his guaranteed reasons, and just quit.
I gotta assume there’s some clause even in guaranteed contracts that if a guy just quits they don’t get the money.gator
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::These are the potential picks Houston will get..Also the only other time a team has traded 3 #1 picks… Vikings in the Walker trade. [media]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504912778938695688 [/media] gator
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No, the grand jury decided not to indict. I guess he could still deal with a civil case potentially but that’s not nearly as concerning from a team perspective.
Wow… I was on a grand jury for 13 months. And out of the 100 plus cases we got, only one wasn’t 100% to send to trial. The one had one person on the grand jury that voted no. Grand juries are pretty lop sided and you only her the State or Fed side of it.trixR4kids
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Doesn’t Watson still have some legal issues? If so, why would any time want to dump lots $$$ on him.
Probable civil suits but no criminal. The league can still impose punishment even if there’s no criminal conviction and I’ve seen an expectation of a 4-8 game suspension.
I doubt if they will even suspend him at all. Which is really sad, but completely unsurprising.
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JWG wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
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I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
You mean $153 reasons? He’s got a lot of guaranteed reasons.
I would not be surprised if ARodg took his guaranteed reasons, and just quit.
Boy would that be something. Leave GB in one hell of a hole. I really doubt that would happen, but still.
Heard on 93X this morning: Davante and ARodg said they were like brothers. If you know anything about the Rodgers’ family, no wonder Davante left.
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Doesn’t Watson still have some legal issues? If so, why would any time want to dump lots $$$ on him.
Probable civil suits but no criminal. The league can still impose punishment even if there’s no criminal conviction and I’ve seen an expectation of a 4-8 game suspension.
I doubt if they will even suspend him at all. Which is really sad, but completely unsurprising.
Actually they’re so sure he’s gonna get suspended that they structured his 2022 pay with all but 1 million of it as signing bonuses so that it will cost him almost nothing in pay if he gets suspended.Bigbeer
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YoungEagle wrote:
The Rube wrote:
JWG wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
Beauner wrote:
I bet Aaron wishes he’d gone elsewhere
$50M reasons why he doesn’t..
You mean $153 reasons? He’s got a lot of guaranteed reasons.
I would not be surprised if ARodg took his guaranteed reasons, and just quit.
Boy would that be something. Leave GB in one hell of a hole. I really doubt that would happen, but still.
Heard on 93X this morning: Davante and ARodg said they were like brothers. If you know anything about the Rodgers’ family, no wonder Davante left.
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Adams agent is claiming the Packers offered him more than what he ended up signing for with the Raiders cause he wanted to play with Carr. Maybe they’re not so much “brothers” after all.
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That’s what I heard too, it was the Carr thing. Allegedly, ARodg knew this…but if it was that important to him to play with Davante…why did he sign? Hmmm.
So he could be the highest paid player in NFL history
Until DeShaun killed that guaranteed portion with his new contract.
Bigbeer
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That’s what I heard too, it was the Carr thing. Allegedly, ARodg knew this…but if it was that important to him to play with Davante…why did he sign? Hmmm.
So he could be the highest paid player in NFL history
Until DeShaun killed that guaranteed portion with his new contract.
I think Watsons deal averages 46 and Arodg is 50. I believe Mahones has the highest overall total contract which gets to the point of numbers for numbers sake, he might not actually get all of it.Thirty-Four
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That’s what I heard too, it was the Carr thing. Allegedly, ARodg knew this…but if it was that important to him to play with Davante…why did he sign? Hmmm.
So he could be the highest paid player in NFL history
Until DeShaun killed that guaranteed portion with his new contract.
I think Watsons deal averages 46 and Arodg is 50. I believe Mahones has the highest overall total contract which gets to the point of numbers for numbers sake, he might not actually get all of it.
Guaranteed money is the key here. Not overall contract. I swear I read DeShaun just blew every contract away with the guaranteed part.
Bigbeer
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Bigbeer wrote:
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Bigbeer wrote:
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That’s what I heard too, it was the Carr thing. Allegedly, ARodg knew this…but if it was that important to him to play with Davante…why did he sign? Hmmm.
So he could be the highest paid player in NFL history
Until DeShaun killed that guaranteed portion with his new contract.
I think Watsons deal averages 46 and Arodg is 50. I believe Mahones has the highest overall total contract which gets to the point of numbers for numbers sake, he might not actually get all of it.
Guaranteed money is the key here. Not overall contract. I swear I read DeShaun just blew every contract away with the guaranteed part.
Yes. Watson has all 243 or whatever guaranteed, Mahones only has like 140 mil guaranteed. Rodgers has most per season.Don Adam’s Wheel of Justice
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Along with the really bad PR look, what if Watson is not done pulling this crap?😬
Money makes people more of what they already are.
I mean…did you read the stories of what he did? He has plenty of money to pay the willing to do that.
O.J. had and paid the money he owed his ex-wife, he still killed her, according to the civil trial jurors. The sick mind does not work like the healthy mind. Just look at Antiono Brown.
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::Not excusing Watson’s alleged behavior, but he hasn’t been convicted of anything yet. NFL could still suspend him, sure, but… And
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::Today Atlanta signed Marcus Mariota to a 2 year deal (haven’t seen the $ amount yet) and New Orleans resigned Jameis Winston to a 2 year – $28 million (21 million guaranteed) deal. The dominos that are the most likely to still fall are Carolina and Seattle. Does Baker Mayfield and Jimmy G end up there?
Would San Francisco trade Jimmy G to a divisional opponent (Seattle)? If not who is going to trade for him. Cleveland and San Francisco are running out of teams to trade Baker and Jimmy to.
EDIT: the Marcus Mariota 2 year deal is for 18.75 million.
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::Sometimes I shake my head on the decisions players make. From what I read, the Chiefs offered him a very good contract that would have made him one of the highest paid receivers, but he chose to leave maybe the best QB and offense in the NFL and goes to Miami and Tua. I guess it is all about the money. Snowcool08
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Sometimes I shake my head on the decisions players make. From what I read, the Chiefs offered him a very good contract that would have made him one of the highest paid receivers, but he chose to leave maybe the best QB and offense in the NFL and goes to Miami and Tua. I guess it is all about the money.
He also broke his own child’s arm as well as some other run ins with the law. He’s not one known for making good decisions.frozen4champs
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Sometimes I shake my head on the decisions players make. From what I read, the Chiefs offered him a very good contract that would have made him one of the highest paid receivers, but he chose to leave maybe the best QB and offense in the NFL and goes to Miami and Tua. I guess it is all about the money.
He also broke his own child’s arm as well as some other run ins with the law. He’s not one known for making good decisions.
Yep. So maybe the Chiefs are relieved to get rid of him.
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These guys have short careers and probably should just take as much guaranteed money as they can get, I don’t think it’s a bad decision by any means.
At $5M per year, they will make more money in 2 seasons than normal people make in their entire working career. I don’t think he has to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
Hammy
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trixR4kids wrote:
These guys have short careers and probably should just take as much guaranteed money as they can get, I don’t think it’s a bad decision by any means.
At $5M per year, they will make more money in 2 seasons than normal people make in their entire working career. I don’t think he has to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
You mean he’s not going to be on skid row if he made $25 million a year versus the $30 million a year he’s getting from the Dolphins?
:mrgreen: Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
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::Hammy wrote:
Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
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Hammy wrote:
Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
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TouchéHammy
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Hammy wrote:
Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
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Touché
But the point is still the same…
:wink: If a guy is dumb enough to go broke making 25 million a year, he’s probably still going to go broke making 30 million.
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Bertogliat wrote:
trixR4kids wrote:
These guys have short careers and probably should just take as much guaranteed money as they can get, I don’t think it’s a bad decision by any means.
At $5M per year, they will make more money in 2 seasons than normal people make in their entire working career. I don’t think he has to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
You mean he’s not going to be on skid row if he made $25 million a year versus the $30 million a year he’s getting from the Dolphins?
:mrgreen: Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
Yeah but we’re talking about Tyreek Hill, that’s kinda the point here
:lol: And honestly 5 million a year is nothing to scoff at especially if you get to live in Miami over Kansas City.
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Hammy wrote:
Bertogliat wrote:
trixR4kids wrote:
These guys have short careers and probably should just take as much guaranteed money as they can get, I don’t think it’s a bad decision by any means.
At $5M per year, they will make more money in 2 seasons than normal people make in their entire working career. I don’t think he has to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
You mean he’s not going to be on skid row if he made $25 million a year versus the $30 million a year he’s getting from the Dolphins?
:mrgreen: Unless the guy is a complete moron with money, he was easily set for life either way.
Yeah but we’re talking about Tyreek Hill, that’s kinda the point here
:lol: And honestly 5 million a year is nothing to scoff at especially if you get to live in Miami over Kansas City.
Not to mention I am sure he can save quite a bit of cash in not paying state income tax in Florida. No idea what the tax rate is in NJ/NY or KS but I’m positive when tens of millions a year are involved it adds up.
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