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    Not looking good for good ol’ Mel at the “cesspool of the east”…
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    Pearson sullied their program with this stuff but it certainly isn’t too far gone to fix by removing him.

    The damage they would incur if he stayed is not something they can afford.

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    How Mel hasn’t been canned yet is truly amazing. There must be some interesting behind the scenes jockeying going on or a big time donor who is a Mel backer is holding Michigan hostage.

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    The board of regents has been busy finding a new President for the University.  With Mel’s contract having run out, and if they have someone lined up as a replacement already, there likely isn’t that much of a rush in their minds.

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    Steve MN wrote…

    The board of regents has been busy finding a new President for the University.  With Mel’s contract having run out, and if they have someone lined up as a replacement already, there likely isn’t that much of a rush in their minds.

    Considering the late timing, if they do get rid of Mel, I have to assume Muckalt is the guy….unless Muckalt is also part of the problems.

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    Here is another guy to follow on twitter in regards to the Michigan stuff. He works for the student newspaper and has been all over this since day 1.

    A few highlights–

    Strauss Mann was heavily involved in trying to be a voice for the players, and Mel basically cut him.

    Goalie coach Steve Shields was fired and Mel filed a police report against him.

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    Vegoe and I have bumped in to Connor a few times this past season. Good kid and covers the team very well!

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    I can’t tell if I am more surprised Mel is still head coach of Michigan or that they continue to get high end recruits.

     

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    I grabbed the full report just in case it goes away from the site it was hosted on…

     

    585240994-Hockey-Report

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    Fighting food poisoning right now, so my reading comprehension is far from 100%, but I hadn’t realized that part of the intrigue was surrounding Strauss Mann.  Even though LaFontaine was leaving as Mann arrived, it does make me wonder if Laffer saw early signs of trouble and left in part because of that.

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    Wow looks like the other shoe is dropping with Mel. Shouldn’t be too long before he’s canned. All the more reason to hate Michigan.

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    LaFontaine was legit bad at Michigan his second year and they had a deep pipeline at that position.

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    I knew that part of it; we were lucky he turned out to be so dominant a couple of seasons ago.  Geez, I was only thinking out loud if there was more than one factor since these things don’t happen in vacuums.  :unsure:

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    frozen4champs wrote…

    How Mel hasn’t been canned yet is truly amazing. There must be some interesting behind the scenes jockeying going on or a big time donor who is a Mel backer is holding Michigan hostage.

    IIRC, he isn’t under contract, so no canning involved?

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    Well, “canned” in that his expired contract isn’t retroactively extended.  But we’ll have to see which way Michigan goes with this report.

    Given the limited scope of the investigation, it does imply that they were at least somewhat honest in that WilmerHale was only hired for this since it related to their previous investigation into Robert Anderson.  I’m still trying to process a lot of the information, so I can’t decide if it would have been better or worse for Mel had this investigation been handled internally.

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    The Rube wrote…
    frozen4champs wrote…

    How Mel hasn’t been canned yet is truly amazing. There must be some interesting behind the scenes jockeying going on or a big time donor who is a Mel backer is holding Michigan hostage.

    IIRC, he isn’t under contract, so no canning involved?

    You can call it semantics I guess. He is still showing up for work as an employee of Michigan and is still getting paid under the terms of his old contract. Maybe he is just being like George Costanza and is just showing up acting like nothing has happened. So technically,  if Michigan decides not to offer Mel a new contract, both sides can say he wasn’t canned, but we all know he was canned. B-)

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    frozen4champs wrote…
    The Rube wrote…
    frozen4champs wrote…

    How Mel hasn’t been canned yet is truly amazing. There must be some interesting behind the scenes jockeying going on or a big time donor who is a Mel backer is holding Michigan hostage.

    IIRC, he isn’t under contract, so no canning involved?

    You can call it semantics I guess. He is still showing up for work as an employee of Michigan and is still getting paid under the terms of his old contract. Maybe he is just being like George Costanza and is just showing up acting like nothing has happened. So technically,  if Michigan decides not to offer Mel a new contract, both sides can say he wasn’t canned, but we all know he was canned. B-)

    “Apparently what happened was, he was laid off 3 months ago, and no one ever told him about it, but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck”
    “So, we just went ahead and fixed the glitch”

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    Get out the popcorn….

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    There’s no way he isn’t removed…right?

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    There’s no way he isn’t removed…right?

    Not saying he won’t, but I would love to be on staff at Michigan if he isn’t. Pretty much have a ‘get out of jail’ pass.

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    Mel 2.0 next week… ;-)

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    If all things were equal, I would expect Mel to be gone, but as others have noted earlier in this thread, winning sometimes gives you more slack than you deserve, so I doubt termination is the only penalty on the table in this case.

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    Broz is wearing his Denver gear at da beauty league.  I don’t think there’s any love lost with MN.

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    Needs to be on espn something so people can watch

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    Don’t Mel and the AD answer to the President of the university and the Board of Regents? Isn’t that like an employee telling their boss that they won’t let their boss fire them? Or am I over simplifying it?

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    Rau4SkiUMah wrote…

    Don’t Mel and the AD answer to the President of the university and the Board of Regents? Isn’t that like an employee telling their boss that they won’t let their boss fire them? Or am I over simplifying it?

    You are forgetting we are talking about Michigan here.  The institution exists because of the football team and the athletic department. At least, that is the way they seem to think.

    Manuel is playing with fire here…

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    They have an interm president who doesn’t seem to have any power whatsoever and the new one starts Oct 15.  Manuel seems to be pulling a power play here and he better watch his back or he’s going to go down with this ship too if he’s not careful.

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    Minnesota Duluth assistant coach Plante leaving Bulldogs for same job with NHL’s Blackhawks

    And

    NCAA adopts new recommendations allowing schools to provide added benefits for student-athletes

     

    The NCAA Division I Board of Directors on Wednesday adopted the first group of transformation committee recommendations aimed at allowing schools to provide more benefits to student-athletes.

     

    While generally supportive of elements of the transfer package, the board took no action on changes to transfer rules during the meeting.

     

    Schools now are empowered to support student-athletes in a variety of ways without asking for waivers, including providing support needed for a student-athlete’s personal health, safety and well-being, paying for items to support a student’s academic pursuits, purchasing insurance of various types (including loss-of-value and critical injury), and funding participation in elite-level training, tryouts and competition.

     

    The benefits proposal is effective immediately.

     

    The board agreed to revisit the transfer package after the transformation committee addresses issues that have been raised by the Division I membership, including the Division I student-athlete advisory committee and Division I council.

     

    Council members last month endorsed several transformation committee recommendations, including the transfer rule changes, updates to the infractions process and the benefits package.

     

    The board requested additional consideration of the concepts related to transfer, particularly the concept that would allow for immediate eligibility after more than one transfer. The concept would create an “academic eligibility exception” that requires student-athletes to be academically eligible at both the school they are leaving and the one to which they are going in order to compete immediately after transferring. This would ensure a student-athlete was on track to earn a degree at the former school and is bringing enough credit to the new school to stay on track to graduate on time/within five years.

     

    The transfer package also would implement transfer portal “entry windows,” or periods of time in which student-athletes must provide their school with written notification of transfer to be eligible to compete immediately the following academic year.

     

    The Division I SAAC raised concerns about the transfer windows, calling them unnecessarily restrictive and requesting additional study, including the potential addition of a fall window for spring sport student-athletes.

     

    Under the proposed transfer package, students in a winter or spring sport could provide written notification of transfer the day after NCAA championship selections in that sport for 60 calendar days. In fall sports, two separate windows would provide a total of 60 calendar days. The first window would be 45 days beginning the day following championship selection, and the second would be from May 1 to May 15. Reasonable accommodations will be made for participants in the Football Bowl Subdivision and Football Championship Subdivision championship games.

     

    Additionally, schools that accept four-year transfer students receiving financial aid would be required to provide financial aid to the student-athlete through the completion of the student’s five-year period of eligibility or undergraduate graduation, whichever comes first, unless the student transfers again or engages in professional athletics opportunities. The student would continue to count against financial aid limits unless the student is medically disqualified, exhausts eligibility, transfers or engages in professional athletics opportunities.

    The board meets next Aug. 31 to consider the transfer package, as well as proposed changes to improve the infractions process.

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    Manuel wanting to extend sheds more light on Mel’s insolence over the past several months if the latter believed the prior was protecting him.  Retweeting this fond memory hours after his superiors met only reinforces that thought.

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    My favorite comment of all of the great comments on his tweet was “You’re very weird”. Because that is so true lol. Not only is he in the situation he’s in because he sounds like a real piece of work. He’s also just tweeting his way through it in what might be one of the most tone deaf moments in recent sports memory. Which there are a lot of btw. It’s crazy how no one is sticking up for him and he and the AD are insisting that he stays. Put aside for a moment, if that’s even possible, all of the valid reasons he should be fired. At this point why does he want to stay at a program where it’s clear no one likes him. This is all so strange.

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    Lots of he said, she said, covering for someone, throwing under the bus, lies or truth… It’s an unhealthy environment. Thank goodness it’s Michigan’s nightmare and Minnesota’s.

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    thinkbui wrote…

    Manuel wanting to extend sheds more light on Mel’s insolence over the past several months if the latter believed the prior was protecting him.  Retweeting this fond memory hours after his superiors met only reinforces that thought.

    This rain tonight is reminding me of another watery event.
    〽️GoBlue🏒🥅🚨 https://t.co/SOphYJJyvS— Mel Pearson (@CoachPearsonUM) August 3, 2022

    How the Super Bowl Gatorade Shower Became Tradition Over 30 Years Ago

    You know the ice bath shower tradition wasn’t born out of respect right?

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    Eric Vegoe wrote…
    thinkbui wrote…

    Manuel wanting to extend sheds more light on Mel’s insolence over the past several months if the latter believed the prior was protecting him.  Retweeting this fond memory hours after his superiors met only reinforces that thought.

    This rain tonight is reminding me of another watery event.
    〽️GoBlue🏒🥅🚨 https://t.co/SOphYJJyvS— Mel Pearson (@CoachPearsonUM) August 3, 2022

    How the Super Bowl Gatorade Shower Became Tradition Over 30 Years Ago

    You know the ice bath shower tradition wasn’t born out of respect right?

    No (you learn something new everyday), but the lack of respect I was referring to was Mel thumbing his nose at the investigation on Twitter and elsewhere, not the friction between him and his players.

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    Mel is gone. It’s official

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    What does this do for any of the players now signing pro contracts and not having to deal with a new coach?

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    It might blow over by Monday, but Michigan fans are pretty PO’d right now that no known action was taken besides at least one attempt to extend Mel since the report was completed in May and it took the report being leaked for them to finally let him go.

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    Garrett Wait’s hockey career appears to be over after an off season knee injury while training.  UMass has declared him medically ineligible to play this year.

    https://www.therinklive.com/mens-division-1/hockey-east-mens/former-gopher-garrett-waits-career-may-be-over-after-suffering-serious-off-season-injury

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    Poor kid, that really stinks.

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    Yeah that is a horrible way for it to end.

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    Jup captured the Gophers Hockey Hater Mike Giibbons post going after Steve Shields before it was taken down.  Gibbons reputation of being a jerk hasn’t changed.

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    So if say Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased with the direction at Michigan could he in theory still transfer without sitting out a year or is it too late?

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    I’m not sure I’m familiar with this Gibbons fellow at all.

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    I’m not sure I’m familiar with this Gibbons fellow at all.

    Was a longtime Jan Brady assistant who is currently an assistant with BSU. Has never shied away from voicing his hatred for the Gophers. Not Sure what brought that feeling, but maybe he wasn’t recruited by the Gophers when he was in high school and had to settle on playing for Bemidji.

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    So if say Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased with the direction at Michigan could he in theory still transfer without sitting out a year or is it too late?

    I’d be surprised if he did, but I believe he can transfer immediately.  Though CHN’s breakdown on potential rules changes this offseason mentions a requirement that the destination school must still be enrolling for fall semester and I haven’t even thought about enrollment periods in years.

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    thinkbui wrote…

    It might blow over by Monday, but Michigan fans are pretty PO’d right now that no known action was taken besides at least one attempt to extend Mel since the report was completed in May and it took the report being leaked for them to finally let him go

    will they get Red Berenson to unretire and become coach again?

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    This is a pretty cool idea: Western Michigan, Northeastern to play Music City Hockey Classic on Nov. 25 as part of double header with NHL’s Predators

    The Fighting Whioux played Penn St there last year as the Hall of Fame game. The Preds played during the day and the Whioux played at night. Had a bunch of friends go there and Broadway was full of Whioux fans for the entire weekend. Would love for the Gophers to be involved in one of these someday.

    A long and exciting day of hockey at Bridgestone Arena this past Saturday concluded with a bit of college action as No. 6 North Dakota battled Penn State in the annual 2021 U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame Game. It was the Nittany Lions who pulled the upset, 6-4, despite upwards of 15,000 Fighting Hawks’ fans in attendance for the special event.

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    thinkbui wrote…
    YoungEagle wrote…

    So if say Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased with the direction at Michigan could he in theory still transfer without sitting out a year or is it too late?

    I’d be surprised if he did, but I believe he can transfer immediately.  Though CHN’s breakdown on potential rules changes this offseason mentions a requirement that the destination school must still be enrolling for fall semester and I haven’t even thought about enrollment periods in years.

    The rule changes likely wouldn’t be put into effect in time so I wouldn’t worry about them.

    As far as I can tell (and I havent really looked into it) as long as he gets in and gets enrolled he can transfer.

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    HandyNotDan wrote…
    thinkbui wrote…
    YoungEagle wrote…

    So if say Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased with the direction at Michigan could he in theory still transfer without sitting out a year or is it too late?

    I’d be surprised if he did, but I believe he can transfer immediately.  Though CHN’s breakdown on potential rules changes this offseason mentions a requirement that the destination school must still be enrolling for fall semester and I haven’t even thought about enrollment periods in years.

    The rule changes likely wouldn’t be put into effect in time so I wouldn’t worry about them.

    As far as I can tell (and I havent really looked into it) as long as he gets in and gets enrolled he can transfer.

    I should have worded that better.  The article mentions it as a current restriction.

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    I don’t think high profile athletes would necessarily need to worry about rules.  We all know schools would find a way to make a transfer happen if it would benefit their athletics.

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    So if say Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased with the direction at Michigan could he in theory still transfer without sitting out a year or is it too late?

    If Luke Hughes wasn’t pleased & therefore didn’t want to play for Michigan this season, he wouldn’t transfer to another D1 school…he’d simply sign with the Devils.

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    Bill Muckalt is an excellent recruiter and a respected coach. He’s also still got two years on his contract. Both likely factors in Michigan keeping him around.

    It also says a lot about Brandon Naurato that he earned the interim spot over Muckalt. https://t.co/d3EdBGl6gS— Connor Earegood (@ConnorEaregood) August 7, 2022

    Seems like a strange decision to me since most of the last 10 or so years he was on Mel’s staff.  I suppose he could just be staying in the interim, especially since it’s August, but it’s still hard not to see him as a Pearson guy.

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    thinkbui wrote…
    frozen4champs wrote…

    Bill Muckalt is an excellent recruiter and a respected coach. He’s also still got two years on his contract. Both likely factors in Michigan keeping him around.

    It also says a lot about Brandon Naurato that he earned the interim spot over Muckalt. https://t.co/d3EdBGl6gS— Connor Earegood (@ConnorEaregood) August 7, 2022

    Seems like a strange decision to me since most of the last 10 or so years he was on Mel’s staff.  I suppose he could just be staying in the interim, especially since it’s August, but it’s still hard not to see him as a Pearson guy.

    Perhaps the “two years left on the contract” was the reason why he stuck around.  The reports don’t seem to implicate Muckalt in any way, so there was no cause to terminate his agreement, and buying out assistants– while not necessarily expensive– is probably not what you want to spend your resources on.

     

    I think I would advise him to seek other opportunities, however, following the contract ending.

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    I’m sure they said something similar to him ;-)

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    I think Mel was a bad choice from Day 1, all this other stuff aside. It will be interesting to see who they go with after the sacrificial lamb serves out the season. Grant is in state here and might be perfectly positioned, should things keep going well.

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    Potential new Division I men’s hockey conference on horizon with 10 possible schools ‘looking at opportunities’

     

    According to the Union Leader, Saint Anselm’s men’s hockey could be part of a move to Division I if a new conference is potentially formed.

     

    “We’re looking at opportunities for what we might do to elevate our men’s ice hockey program and give them the same branding profile opportunities and exposure that we’ve done on the women’s side,” said Daron Montgomery, the college’s director of athletics, in the report. “Those student athletes are having a tremendous experience with the women’s program and now the question is how can we look to do something similar on the men’s side?”

     

    Saint Anselm’s women’s hockey team moved to D-I in 2017 and is now part of the NEWHA conference.

     

    Earlier this year, NEWHA commissioner Bob DeGregorio looked at the potential expansion opportunities in D-I men’s hockey and reported his findings to 10 schools — Saint Anselm, Southern New Hampshire, Franklin Pierce, Saint Michael’s, Assumption, Post, Stonehill, Long Island, Lindenwood, and Utica.

    “My recommendation to those 10 schools was, if you are serious about moving your programs forward, form a new (Division I) league and play for the next two years,” DeGregorio said. “That would be a very good thing, as far as I’m concerned, for the growth of Division I men’s ice hockey.

     

    “So you play for two years and then if you become eligible for an automatic qualifier, perfect. If you don’t, there’s nothing you can do about it, anyway. Keep going, keep the league going, keep playing, and get your presidents active in this, get them blowing up the phone lines at the NCAA headquarters because, ultimately, it’s the presidents who will move the needle on this.”

    Whether or not this comes to fruition (either in part or in total) it didn’t seen that that long that NCAA Div I hockey was bordering on losing teams, and there were discussions on if the NCAA would go back to a smaller field for the national tournament.  Even without this it appears at least for now that Div I hockey is as healthy as it’s ever been.  :dup:

    Also I don’t think this was mentioned elsewhere, but Augsburg and St. John’s will play each other as part of HDM.

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