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    I thought this was a seven game series, not a one and done.  🤷‍♀️

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    Fleury definitely not sharp tonight…flopping like a crappie on the dock…doesn’t pass the eye test.

    Apparently that’s up for debate.

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs.

    Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

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    So much for home ice. This Blues team was a terrible draw for the wild.

    Kryptonite.

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs. Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

    I’m old school, so no, but that was a Marchand kind of douche move. 👎

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs. Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

    I’m old school, so no, but that was a Marchand kind of douche move. 👎

    A suspension is very warranted on that cheap ass move by Spurgeon. That is intent to injure. Maybe not the rest of the playoffs, but multiple games is deserved.

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    Bonin is a smug asshole. Don’t base anything on his shitty opinions

    Gone for a week…

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    Look… I know many of you are not fond of Bonin21. But that was completely uncalled for by Chill Kessel.

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    I missed the Spurgeon bit…what was it? I’ve never even seen him get upset much less go cheap on someone

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    I’m coming around to the dealing Spurgeon to keep Fiala idea.

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    I missed the Spurgeon bit…what was it? I’ve never even seen him get upset much less go cheap on someone

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

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    I missed the Spurgeon bit…what was it? I’ve never even seen him get upset much less go cheap on someone

    https://twitter.com/soioucity/status/1521342556944089095?s=21&t=YCYqdlL2gbD3W053RcfM6Q

    Definitely a dick move but nowhere near brad Marchand. Weird to see him lose his cool there foe no apparent reason.

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs. Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

    I’m old school, so no, but that was a Marchand kind of douche move. 👎

    A suspension is very warranted on that cheap ass move by Spurgeon. That is intent to injure. Maybe not the rest of the playoffs, but multiple games is deserved.

    They seem to do kind of 1 playoff games = 3 regular season games for suspension so maybe he gets 1 game. But who knows with the NHL they have zero consistency.

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    Definitely a dick move but nowhere near brad Marchand. Weird to see him lose his cool there foe no apparent reason.

    I honestly do not care what others have done… (and I hate Marchand the most)

    That was intent to injure and he needs to be suspended. He could have easily broke his leg or achilles.

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    Definitely a dick move but nowhere near brad Marchand. Weird to see him lose his cool there foe no apparent reason.

    If he breaks his ankle or otherwise knocks him out of the series? Man, wake up. 👎

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    Look… I know many of you are not fond of Bonin21. But that was completely uncalled for by Chill Kessel.

    Chill has become more and more of an agitator lately.  I was going to respond to his comment but it probably wouldn’t have been any nicer, so I kept my trap shut.

    There’s being negative, and then being a dick.

    Don’t be a dick.   Thanks Jup.

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    I’ll say this as the resident Blues fan: The Blues had their doors blown off multiple times in 2019. They had refs hose them badly ( the hand pass game winner to go down 2-1 to San Jose, for instance), but the team battled and kept their composure. This series is a loooong way from decided.

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    Look… I know many of you are not fond of Bonin21. But that was completely uncalled for by Chill Kessel.

    Hasn’t been very chill for a couple weeks now.

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    Definitely a dick move but nowhere near brad Marchand. Weird to see him lose his cool there foe no apparent reason.

    If he breaks his ankle or otherwise knocks him out of the series? Man, wake up. 👎

    Agree 100%. The result could have been terrible. Spurgeon should be out at least 1 game. And Lord help us (and the game in general) if we’ve reached the point where a player has to sink to crossing “The Marchand Line” in order to be suspended.

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    The more things change. The more they stay the same. New GM. New Coach. New Players. Hot goalie pickup. No matter.

     

    Evason: “that’s our season. We have not been good on special teams.”

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    I’ll say this as the resident Blues fan: The Blues had their doors blown off multiple times in 2019. They had refs hose them badly ( the hand pass game winner to go down 2-1 to San Jose, for instance), but the team battled and kept their composure. This series is a loooong way from decided.

     

    For sure. Nobody can overreact to Game 1. The Wild played great 5 on 5 for the most part. Special teams were bad, and Husso got bailed by the pipe a couple times. I imagine tomorrow’s game will be much different. Stay out of the box, start Talbot, and keep grinding. Just because the Wild lost game 1 doesn’t mean this is “the same old wild” “MN sports in the playoffs always do this” blahblahblah.

     

    Blues got a great win, but they can’t take too much pride in that either.

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    For sure. Nobody can overreact to Game 1.

     

    Wanna bet? 

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    For the Wild to win the series they are going to have to prove they can stay out of the box. I don’t think they can.

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    Lol. Should’ve said nobody should overreact.

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    For sure. Nobody can overreact to Game 1.

    Wanna bet?

    Bingo. After all, this IS GPL we’re talking about. Overreacting is in our DNA.

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    Decided to break up the thread and turn it in to the 2022 Playoff thread.

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs. Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

    He’ll get one game maybe… but the suspended for the playoffs is sounding like UND fan talk… until it’s one of their players and then it’s hard nose hockey.

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    Definitely a dick move but nowhere near brad Marchand. Weird to see him lose his cool there foe no apparent reason.

    I honestly do not care what others have done… (and I hate Marchand the most) That was intent to injure and he needs to be suspended. He could have easily broke his leg or achilles.

    Agreed. He earned at least a 1 game suspension. Maybe 2-3. That was a ridiculous cheapshot.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

     

    100% this.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

     

    No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does.  The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional.

     

    The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

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    St. Louis scored about 6 minutes in on the PP and then again 10 minutes later for a, 2-0 lead. No where during that first period did it seem like their strategy was to goat the Wild out a their game. They built an early lead & put themselves in control because of that.

    The Wild played real well in the 2nd but again it was the Blues capitalizing on the PP late in the period. The chippiness and the frustration didn’t start start until the 3rd when the game is in hand.

     

    The Blue capitilizaed on their strengths, special teams.

    The Wild were good 5×5 but didn’t capitalize.

    X Factor headed in, goaltending went to the Blues.

     

    The Wild will need to find a way to get one early and preferably first. The Blues are as disciplined as any team when it comes to packing it in and blocking shots.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

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    The Wild were easily goaded into scrums last night. I find it hard to believe that did not have an impact on how the game was called and how many times the Wild were on Special Teams. But, if that is the case and everything will be called even steven in the end. Then the Wild have to not only dominate 5 on 5 they actually have to bend twine 5 on 5. And do it often. Cause just about every penalty is a 50/50 for a St. Louis score.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

     

    We see it every year. There’s two seasons in the NHL. The Wild don’t make out too well in the second one.

    I give the Blues a ton of credit, but the Wild failed to capitalize SIX TIMES on the power play and killed only one of three penalties. Fleury wasn’t going to save the day anyway, but he was not good.

    That game could have gone in favor of the Wild had they hit the net instead of a pipe twice and finished on any one of the dozen goal mouth scrambles. It just didn’t fall for them last night, but it better tomorrow or they are probably done.

    I get why Dean started tournament-tested Fleury, but in hindsight it was a mistake. Now Talbot will have a ton of pressure on his narrow shoulders in his start.

     

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

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    Lots of Blues fans calling for Spurgeon to be suspended for the playoffs. Seems a bit dramatic, but what do I know?

    I’m old school, so no, but that was a Marchand kind of douche move. 👎

    A suspension is very warranted on that cheap ass move by Spurgeon. That is intent to injure. Maybe not the rest of the playoffs, but multiple games is deserved.

    Does intending to give him a bruise equal intent to injure? I saw someone say he could have broken his ankle, which I highly doubt was possible. You need a pretty good tomahawk slash to even have a chance at breaking an ankle.

    Was it cheap? Yes.

    Was it a Marchand Move? Yes.

    Does it warrant a suspension? I don’t know, but I think the fine is satisfactory for me.

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    The fine was predictable, no apparent injury and no history of this kind of thing. I do think going after our second highest scorer was risky as far as retribution. We have a lot of the same kind of plug in average blue liners to retaliate without concern. I hope things stay chippy and don’t escalate.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

     

    Did either of Colorado’s cheap shots from Friday get fines or suspensions?  Those were worse than Spurgeons.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

    The 1st penalty on Greenway was literally 2 minutes for getting crosschecked in the throat by Tarasenko. And that was seconds after Schenn took a 30 foot run at Dumba and put his shoulder into Dumba’s jaw. After the whistle.  Blaming the players for St Louis coming out of that with a PP is asinine.

    The 2nd penalty on Greenway could be considered a dumb penalty, but it’s also something that every player on the ice dis at least 3 times last night.

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    Last time I checked the Wild had more PPs. They weren’t goaded into anything. Also great to see bonin-lite posting again after a loss after being absent during their 19-2 run or whatever it was.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

    Did either of Colorado’s cheap shots from Friday get fines or suspensions? Those were worse than Spurgeons.

     

    The end result was worse or the intent was worse? There was no other intent in what Spurgeon did. None.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

    The 1st penalty on Greenway was literally 2 minutes for getting crosschecked in the throat by Tarasenko. And that was seconds after Schenn took a 30 foot run at Dumba and put his shoulder into Dumba’s jaw. After the whistle. Blaming the players for St Louis coming out of that with a PP is asinine. The 2nd penalty on Greenway could be considered a dumb penalty, but it’s also something that every player on the ice dis at least 3 times last night.

     

    I think the ref was probably warning Greenway and finally just said the hell with it and gave him two for not laying off Tarasenko.

    The part he blew was not calling Teresenko in the first place or Schenn for blowing up Dumba. The refs totally mismanaged that sequence and it set up a pretty choppy game.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

    A $5,000 fine for Spurgeon is like a $100 fine for someone making $110,000/year.  Without a game suspension, I’m a little surprised that the fine was just $5,000.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

    A $5,000 fine for Spurgeon is like a $100 fine for someone making $110,000/year. Without a game suspension, I’m a little surprised that the fine was just $5,000.

     

    That apparently is the maximum fine.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

    The 1st penalty on Greenway was literally 2 minutes for getting crosschecked in the throat by Tarasenko. And that was seconds after Schenn took a 30 foot run at Dumba and put his shoulder into Dumba’s jaw. After the whistle. Blaming the players for St Louis coming out of that with a PP is asinine. The 2nd penalty on Greenway could be considered a dumb penalty, but it’s also something that every player on the ice dis at least 3 times last night.

    I think the ref was probably warning Greenway and finally just said the hell with it and gave him two for not laying off Tarasenko. The part he blew was not calling Teresenko in the first place or Schenn for blowing up Dumba. The refs totally mismanaged that sequence and it set up a pretty choppy game.

    EXACTLY…Tarasenko or Schenn (or both) should have been called for a penalty, but Greenway wouldn’t lay off or let go of Tarasenko, hence the call. That said, if the Wild PK & PP doesn’t improve dramatically & immediately…all this discussion is moot (anyway) ☝️

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

    The 1st penalty on Greenway was literally 2 minutes for getting crosschecked in the throat by Tarasenko. And that was seconds after Schenn took a 30 foot run at Dumba and put his shoulder into Dumba’s jaw. After the whistle. Blaming the players for St Louis coming out of that with a PP is asinine. The 2nd penalty on Greenway could be considered a dumb penalty, but it’s also something that every player on the ice dis at least 3 times last night.

    I think the ref was probably warning Greenway and finally just said the hell with it and gave him two for not laying off Tarasenko. The part he blew was not calling Teresenko in the first place or Schenn for blowing up Dumba. The refs totally mismanaged that sequence and it set up a pretty choppy game.

    I agree with that breakdown, but that just adds to my point.  Stop blaming the players for terrible officiating.

     

    Brodin made a great play to chase down Buchnevich and lift his stick before he could get a shot off. According to the official, that was a penalty.

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    The 1st line not showing up at all is concerning. The rest of the team was pretty good at 5 on 5. Special teams continue to be a disaster

    St Louis strategy was to make the game chippy, emotional & the Wild fell (too easily) into that trap, though they knew that wasn’t the type of game that favored them. That shows lack of discipline (as a team) plain & simple. And yes, the first line was a no show & special teams were Kramer like…look away, I’m hideous!

    • No it wasn’t. It’s playoff hockey. It’s going to be chippy and emotional regardless of what the other team does. The Wild absolutely dominated that game at even strength. Their failures to finish quality chances, and a horseshit PK is why they lost. Had nothing to do with some strategy to make the game emotional. The idea that a team can just decide to not take penalties is also ridiculous. This is the NHL, the Wild are going to get penalized just as much as the Blues do regardless of which team is actually taking penalties.

    You’re 100% correct on emotions & the playoffs & yes it’s going to be chippy.. but players still need to control their emotions…case in point…BOTH Greenway penalties were DUMB plays & the Blues scored power play goals (on both). Yes, I realize the refs are gonna make calls on both teams to sorta even things up, but don’t make it easy for them to call one on you…like Greenway did…

    The 1st penalty on Greenway was literally 2 minutes for getting crosschecked in the throat by Tarasenko. And that was seconds after Schenn took a 30 foot run at Dumba and put his shoulder into Dumba’s jaw. After the whistle. Blaming the players for St Louis coming out of that with a PP is asinine. The 2nd penalty on Greenway could be considered a dumb penalty, but it’s also something that every player on the ice dis at least 3 times last night.

    I think the ref was probably warning Greenway and finally just said the hell with it and gave him two for not laying off Tarasenko. The part he blew was not calling Teresenko in the first place or Schenn for blowing up Dumba. The refs totally mismanaged that sequence and it set up a pretty choppy game.

    I agree with that breakdown, but that just adds to my point. Stop blaming the players for terrible officiating. Brodin made a great play to chase down Buchnevich and lift his stick before he could get a shot off. According to the official, that was a penalty.

     

    That penalty shot call was brutal.  Assume that can’t be challenged?

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    I didn’t see quality shots on net by the Wild. Most were right into the goalies jersey logo.  As the game progressed the Wild shots were even worse which makes sense since futility was added in.  They need to get on the board in the first period before panic sets in.
    It doesn’t matter who we play, when the defense is giving them room in our zone, and it was bad, Blues were free to pass across the front of our net back and forth. like toying with us.  The Wild D was giving the offense space to move, pass, and shoot. The Blues looked amazed they had so much room to twaddle around and have their way in our zone.  And on the Power play players have to be skating, moving to get open, make openings to pass and shoot. What are they standing around for?  Sum that up and it’s no surprise we lost.

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    The replay showed that Brodin’s stick stayed pretty much away from the hands and the rest of the body. When it happened I thought, “That’s a penalty?” When a penalty shot was awarded I was even more incredulous. Brodin definitely did not have an advantageous position, and that’s why the arm went up. It looked like a penalty…but a penalty shot? No way.

    Not that it matters. We saw what the Wild did with the momentum of the save and the one and only time all night that the crowd came alive.

     

     

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    I didn’t see quality shots on net by the Wild. Most were right into the goalies jersey logo. As the game progressed the Wild shots were even worse which makes sense since futility was added in. They need to get on the board in the first period before panic sets in. It doesn’t matter who we play, when the defense is giving them room in our zone, and it was bad, Blues were free to pass across the front of our net back and forth. like toying with us. The Wild D was giving the offense space to move, pass, and shoot. The Blues looked amazed they had so much room to twaddle around and have their way in our zone. And on the Power play players have to be skating, moving to get open, make openings to pass and shoot. What are they standing around for? Sum that up and it’s no surprise we lost.

     

    Are you referring to the Blues power play? Because offensively 5×5 they didn’t do a whole lot, to their credit they didn’t necessarily have to they built and earned a lead.

    5×5 the shot attempts were 43 to 17, Wild. The Blues were hardly in the Wild zone & certainly weren’t toying around on the Wild.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

    Did either of Colorado’s cheap shots from Friday get fines or suspensions? Those were worse than Spurgeons.

    The end result was worse or the intent was worse? There was no other intent in what Spurgeon did. None.

     

    I think the Colorado players intent and potential for harm was much worse.  140 lb Spurgeon crosschecking a calf from a foot away is dumb (and worthy of a fine or suspension because it was clearly done to injure) but not like you’re really gonna do any serious damage.  The Colorado hit on Foligno was brutal – could put a guy out for a year if it blows his knee up.  The hit on Kulikov could easily cause all kind of serious injuries, including a concussion.

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    Spurgeon was fined 5,000 dollars for attempting to injure another player.

    Did either of Colorado’s cheap shots from Friday get fines or suspensions? Those were worse than Spurgeons.

    The end result was worse or the intent was worse? There was no other intent in what Spurgeon did. None.

    I think the Colorado players intent and potential for harm was much worse. 140 lb Spurgeon crosschecking a calf from a foot away is dumb (and worthy of a fine or suspension because it was clearly done to injure) but not like you’re really gonna do any serious damage. The Colorado hit on Foligno was brutal – could put a guy out for a year if it blows his knee up. The hit on Kulikov could easily cause all kind of serious injuries, including a concussion.

     

    Yes, you’re correct. I apologize I was wrong.

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason.

     

    If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

     

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased.  What is Talbots recent record?

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    13-0-3.  He hasn’t lost in regulation since March 1st.

     

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

     

    In general I’m a big fan of Evason, but that would be a dumb move to put Fleury in goal again.  He’s looked below average since he’s been here. Head scratcher if that’s the case.

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    In general I’m a big fan of Evason, but that would be a dumb move to put Fleury in goal again. He’s looked below average since he’s been here. Head scratcher if that’s the case.

    It’s most likely a joint decision after consultation between Billy, Dean & the goalie coach.

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    Let’s hope this does not become an example of Einstein’s definition of insanity….

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    In general I’m a big fan of Evason, but that would be a dumb move to put Fleury in goal again. He’s looked below average since he’s been here. Head scratcher if that’s the case.

     

    I wonder if something is going on we don’t know about. Maybe Talbot is dinged up or there is some issue that he isn’t 100%. Otherwise why would you not play hm?

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    Talbot was seen in a bar with Evason’s daughter?

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    In general I’m a big fan of Evason, but that would be a dumb move to put Fleury in goal again. He’s looked below average since he’s been here. Head scratcher if that’s the case.

    I wonder if something is going on we don’t know about. Maybe Talbot is dinged up or there is some issue that he isn’t 100%. Otherwise why would you not play hm?

     

    Guerin demanding he be the starter?

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    Talbot was seen in a bar with Evason’s daughter?

    LOL Yeah, we definitely can use the levity after Mondays game! 👍

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    In Dean and GMBG I trust. It’s a new day, and I’m just as amped to get back to the X tonight!

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    Wow. Coach playing a hunch.

    After the Fleury flop fest on Monday, I’m rather surprised by this decision – to say the least.

     

     

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    Welp…

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    Not sure that’s a good idea.  Hope it works out. Really hope the GM isn’t behind this decision.

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    Not sure how taking out your best PK defenseman and replacing him with your worst is a good idea either?

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    I thought Talbot was playing tonight, I would have bet a lot on it. But they have some items to fix before you get to Fleury.

    Goal one seemed like the one you would like back, he faced the first shot head on and kicked a rebound out that went right on the Blues stick. This one stinks because it sets the tone early and allows the Blues to start hunkering down which they do well.

    Goal 2 was a massive D break down, Faulk unattended comes in to rip a shot, had so much time he purposely put it on for a tip, to unattended O’Reilly. Fleury actually made a nice save on the tip. O’Reilly was still unattended after, shot, tip and rebound. That was a massive failure at 5×5.

    Goal 3 the Blues continued to cut the PK box like butter. Shot low off the toe after Fleury as to come all the way across, rebound right on a Blues stick across the other side.

    If you give up chances like 2 & 3 continually, good luck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9krOejpdk

     

    Goal 1 1:15

    Goal 2 2:30

    Goal 3 4:55

    They need to close the gap on special teams asap.

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    13-0-3. He hasn’t lost in regulation since March 1st.

     

    His record against STL is also atrocious. I can see it either way and am OK with either decision. Wide range of opinions amongst analysts too, so it’s close to a flip/ pick-em for me.

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    Can’t fault Fleury for O’Reilly being all alone in front of the net, but you can certainly fault him for overplaying the shot so badly that he’s completely out of his net. He was flailing around all night and you could count the number of calm,clean saves He made, On one hand.

     

    Really hope Evason is right on this one.

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    Can’t fault Fleury for O’Reilly being all alone in front of the net, but you can certainly fault him for overplaying the shot so badly that he’s completely out of his net. He was flailing around all night and you could count the number of calm,clean saves He made, On one hand. Really hope Evason is right on this one.

    Fleury at times reminds me of Brett Favre….high on talent but prone to fatal mistakes.

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    Can’t fault Fleury for O’Reilly being all alone in front of the net, but you can certainly fault him for overplaying the shot so badly that he’s completely out of his net. He was flailing around all night and you could count the number of calm,clean saves He made, On one hand. Really hope Evason is right on this one.

    Fleury at times reminds me of Brett Favre….high on talent but prone to fatal mistakes.

    He looks exactly like Stalock did when he was here.

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    Flower back in net for Game 2 according to Evason. If I’m Talbot I’m not pleased.

    As a Wild fan, I am not pleased. What is Talbots recent record?

    13-0-3. He hasn’t lost in regulation since March 1st.

    His record against STL is also atrocious. I can see it either way and am OK with either decision. Wide range of opinions amongst analysts too, so it’s close to a flip/ pick-em for me.

    So is MAF’s.

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