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    Miguel Cabrera gathered hit #3000 today, as well.

     

    Found this little nugget to be absolutely incredible. One of the best hitters we’ll ever see

     

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    Congrats to him. Great achievement.

    But I will never forget the metrodome, game 163 in 2009 yelling “alcoholic” when he came to bat.  😬

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      I love to chant against a rival but making fun of a condition isn’t that funny.

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      I love to chant against a rival but making fun of a condition isn’t that funny.

       

      well, clearly he overcame and has continued to have an illustrious career.  Again, congrats to him.   Probably had access to resources many don’t.

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        Whether he had resources doesn’t factor in for me.

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        Epic: https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1518409106595495942

        For reference, some other Angel Hernandez calls:

        Angel Hernandez was the lowest rated umpire on the day, missing 19 calls for a correct percentage of 85.3%. He rang up 6 batters on pitches that were outside the zone and called a strike to Jean Segura that missed inside by a season high 6.47 inches.

         

         

         

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        Might want to google Jeff Nelson, about a week ago. Missed 27 calls in a single game. Yeah.

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        Most double digit strikeout games in MLB history:
        215 Nolan Ryan
        212 Randy Johnson
        110 Roger Clemens
        108 Pedro Martinez
        106 Max Scherzer

        That separation is SICK.

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        Might want to google Jeff Nelson, about a week ago. Missed 27 calls in a single game. Yeah.

        And yet, nothing ever happens. Bad calls, game after game, year after year and still they remain umpiring at the highest level possible. I saw some comments along the line of “Well, some of those pitches didn’t miss by TOO much” and “You gotta be ready for anything with two strikes”.  What the hell does that even mean?

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        Might want to google Jeff Nelson, about a week ago. Missed 27 calls in a single game. Yeah.

        And yet, nothing ever happens. Bad calls, game after game, year after year and still they remain umpiring at the highest level possible. I saw some comments along the line of “Well, some of those pitches didn’t miss by TOO much” and “You gotta be ready for anything with two strikes”. What the hell does that even mean?

         

        Part of it is, the lower level umpiring. No one wants to work their way up due to violent spectators/parents/etc, and I don’t blame ’em. You don’t just apply to be a big league ump, although I am hoping that will change. Make it like a trade school or something, go through some sort of course, watch a TON of film, and make the calls.

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        Let the robots do it

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        So, a guy who has no trial charges against him, is suspended. WTF. I dunno if he did it, but the assuming of the league…this is insane. Guilty by PR. I hate this trend.

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          So, a guy who has no trial charges against him, is suspended. WTF. I dunno if he did it, but the assuming of the league…this is insane. Guilty by PR. I hate this trend.

          Luckily he’s a tool so I don’t feel terrible about it anyway.

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            He was a POS well before the accusations and the league doesn’t have to allow him to stick around.

            Would your liquor store be required to employ you if you were accused of violent rapes?

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            What happened to innocent until proven guilty? That’s my question.

            Now, there is a lot of gray in that question when it comes to employment, but…IMO, he’s already guilty by publicity/media. And he might not be really guilty. I dunno. You dunno. None of us know.

            Note: not defending him personally. I just don’t know all the facts, and if the authorities are not charging him…

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              The presumption of innocence applies to criminal court. He isn’t in prison. He just isn’t allowed to play major league baseball.

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              The presumption of innocence applies to criminal court. He isn’t in prison. He just isn’t allowed to play major league baseball.

               

              He’s denied his livelihood based off an accusation. That’s a slippery slope.

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              Legal questions aside, Trevor Bauer is a creepy weirdo. I doubt many players want him in their clubhouse for 162 games

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              Legal questions aside, Trevor Bauer is a creepy weirdo. I doubt many players want him in their clubhouse for 162 games

               

              I do not disagree.

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              I won’t say as much as I could about Bauer on a public forum, but I haven’t heard of one single person enjoying the time they’ve spent around him.

               

              As far as his suspension, if you’ve followed the case and read the accusations (from at least two women) its pretty clear to see why it would be considered a violation of the MLB’s Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault, and Child Abuse Policy.

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              I won’t say as much as I could about Bauer on a public forum, but I haven’t heard of one single person enjoying the time they’ve spent around him. As far as his suspension, if you’ve followed the case and read the accusations (from at least two women) its pretty clear to see why it would be considered a violation of the MLB’s Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault, and Child Abuse Policy.

               

              It’s still an accusation. What if the accusations are completely false? I disagree with the way these things tend to go. Now, I admit, where there is smoke, there is most likely fire, but there have been a few cases in recent years that were completely fabricated, and lives thrown into disarray. The Rolling Stone Frat case, the Duke Lacrosse case, the Brian Banks case (he even spent five years in jail before his accuser admitted it was all made up).

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                Then he can try to recover his damages (lost earnings) in a civil lawsuit…

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                Then he can try to recover his damages (lost earnings) in a civil lawsuit…

                 

                If in a civil lawsuit he’s found guilty? Suspend him, blackball him, fine. ;)

                But wait until a verdict of sorts.

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                  Nobody is found guilty in a civil suit and he would be the plaintiff in the type of suit I suggested.

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                  Nobody is found guilty in a civil suit and he would be the plaintiff in the type of suit I suggested.

                   

                  A. You know what I mean.
                  B. He did sue the first accuser, dunno about the second one.

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                    So you’re well aware that he has an avenue to recover lost earnings that he is in fact pursuing.

                    The union or his agent could have negotiated contracts that said “you can’t suspend me unless a jury finds me guilty” but they didn’t.

                    He is using the avenues available to him. Your idea that he should be allowed to continue as a major league baseball player until found guilty is both ridiculous and bad for baseball.

                    I imagine you are also upset that OJ Simpson does not hold a prominent position within the NFL. Obviously he was found not guilty and shouldn’t be denied his livelihood.

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                    So you’re well aware that he has an avenue to recover lost earnings that he is in fact pursuing. The union or his agent could have negotiated contracts that said “you can’t suspend me unless a jury finds me guilty” but they didn’t. He is using the avenues available to him. Your idea that he should be allowed to continue as a major league baseball player until found guilty is both ridiculous and bad for baseball. I imagine you are also upset that OJ Simpson does not hold a prominent position within the NFL. Obviously he was found not guilty and shouldn’t be denied his livelihood.

                     

                    The players’ union and MLB obviously compromised on both ends to make that agreement. I disagree with that compromise, but I am not part of either organization, so I didn’t have a say.
                    The OJ comment is quite the “jump to conclusions” argument, and either way, he was convicted of a later crime, which therefore would be subject to punishment from any employer he might have had at the time.

                    Ray Lewis was allowed to play, and he was acquitted of murder.

                    Furthermore, Leonard Little pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter, and yet was allowed to play after a 1/2 season suspension. Now, frankly, Bauer is suspended 2 years on an unproven accusation, and Little got a 1/2 season suspension on a conviction? Something doesn’t add up for me. It should be reversed, at the very least. At the most, Bauer should not be suspended any more (I will compromise and say Bauer’s suspension until a criminal verdict was rendered would be valid), and Little should have been basically banned from the league.

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                    So you’re well aware that he has an avenue to recover lost earnings that he is in fact pursuing. The union or his agent could have negotiated contracts that said “you can’t suspend me unless a jury finds me guilty” but they didn’t. He is using the avenues available to him. Your idea that he should be allowed to continue as a major league baseball player until found guilty is both ridiculous and bad for baseball. I imagine you are also upset that OJ Simpson does not hold a prominent position within the NFL. Obviously he was found not guilty and shouldn’t be denied his livelihood.

                    The players’ union and MLB obviously compromised on both ends to make that agreement. I disagree with that compromise, but I am not part of either organization, so I didn’t have a say. The OJ comment is quite the “jump to conclusions” argument, and either way, he was convicted of a later crime, which therefore would be subject to punishment from any employer he might have had at the time. Ray Lewis was allowed to play, and he was acquitted of murder. Furthermore, Leonard Little pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter, and yet was allowed to play after a 1/2 season suspension. Now, frankly, Bauer is suspended 2 years on an unproven accusation, and Little got a 1/2 season suspension on a conviction? Something doesn’t add up for me. It should be reversed, at the very least. At the most, Bauer should not be suspended any more (I will compromise and say Bauer’s suspension until a criminal verdict was rendered would be valid), and Little should have been basically banned from the league.

                    What a bizarre take, even for you. So because the NFL botched punishing players years ago, MLB should ignore this? Bauer has no constitutional right to be a major league player. And it isn’t just “accusations”. MLB conducted an investigation and found he broke their rules. I doubt they would hand down a suspension like this if they couldn’t back that up if Bauer sues. Defending this guy is beyond weird to me.

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                      I think Rube is operating under the incorrect assumption that MLB has done no investigation and just heard there was an allegation.

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                      So you’re well aware that he has an avenue to recover lost earnings that he is in fact pursuing. The union or his agent could have negotiated contracts that said “you can’t suspend me unless a jury finds me guilty” but they didn’t. He is using the avenues available to him. Your idea that he should be allowed to continue as a major league baseball player until found guilty is both ridiculous and bad for baseball. I imagine you are also upset that OJ Simpson does not hold a prominent position within the NFL. Obviously he was found not guilty and shouldn’t be denied his livelihood.

                      The players’ union and MLB obviously compromised on both ends to make that agreement. I disagree with that compromise, but I am not part of either organization, so I didn’t have a say. The OJ comment is quite the “jump to conclusions” argument, and either way, he was convicted of a later crime, which therefore would be subject to punishment from any employer he might have had at the time. Ray Lewis was allowed to play, and he was acquitted of murder. Furthermore, Leonard Little pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter, and yet was allowed to play after a 1/2 season suspension. Now, frankly, Bauer is suspended 2 years on an unproven accusation, and Little got a 1/2 season suspension on a conviction? Something doesn’t add up for me. It should be reversed, at the very least. At the most, Bauer should not be suspended any more (I will compromise and say Bauer’s suspension until a criminal verdict was rendered would be valid), and Little should have been basically banned from the league.

                      What a bizarre take, even for you. So because the NFL botched punishing players years ago, MLB should ignore this? Bauer has no constitutional right to be a major league player. And it isn’t just “accusations”. MLB conducted an investigation and found he broke their rules. I doubt they would hand down a suspension like this if they couldn’t back that up if Bauer sues. Defending this guy is beyond weird to me.

                       

                      The NFL totally botched it, which was my point in the previous post. I’m not specifically defending Bauer, either. I opposing the practice of suspending/etc a person on the basis of an accusation that has not been resolved. My compromise would be to suspend until resolved (suspended until further notice, that sort of thing), however MLB set a hard timeline on said suspension. And I will note, I don’t even like that compromise, but some things have to be flexible to reach an overall agreement.

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                        No court or jury has ever found me unfit to play in the major leagues. I demand an MLB salary immediately.

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                        No court or jury has ever found me unfit to play in the major leagues. I demand an MLB salary immediately.

                         

                        Gotta have talent, m’boy. Bauer does have the talent, like it or not. He’s just an a-hole.

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                          Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

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                          Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                           

                          if you had the talent you would have played in the MLB.

                          I was two balls and another appendage short.  😂

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                            Perhaps I was passionate about other professions? Lots of assumptions being made here in denying my right to an MLB salary.

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                            Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                            It’s not a right. He was hired by an MLB team. He has not legally broken any laws (as of yet, still needs to be proven). He went through the interview process, so to speak, and passed. Now, because of an accusation that has yet to be proven, he is now suspended.

                            Have you tried out for an MLB team? If not, go for it. If you pass the process, sweet! (and first round is on you, right? ;) ) Just don’t get accused of anything unsavory.

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                            Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                            It’s not a right. He was hired by an MLB team. He has not legally broken any laws (as of yet, still needs to be proven). He went through the interview process, so to speak, and passed. Now, because of an accusation that has yet to be proven, he is now suspended. Have you tried out for an MLB team? If not, go for it. If you pass the process, sweet! (and first round is on you, right? ;) ) Just don’t get accused of anything unsavory.

                            He signed a contract under the rules set forth by the owners and the players union which included the rules about sexual misconduct, assault, etc. The league conducted an investigation and found he violated the terms of that contract. He can appeal, sue the league, etc. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

                             

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                              His contract had terms. The league determined he has violated at least one of those terms. This is simple stuff.

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                              His contract had terms. The league determined he has violated at least one of those terms. This is simple stuff.

                              For 99% of us.

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                                His contract had terms. The league determined he has violated at least one of those terms. This is simple stuff.

                                If he didn’t like the terms, he could have negotiated other terms or… not signed at all.

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                                Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                                It’s not a right. He was hired by an MLB team. He has not legally broken any laws (as of yet, still needs to be proven). He went through the interview process, so to speak, and passed. Now, because of an accusation that has yet to be proven, he is now suspended. Have you tried out for an MLB team? If not, go for it. If you pass the process, sweet! (and first round is on you, right? ;) ) Just don’t get accused of anything unsavory.

                                He signed a contract under the rules set forth by the owners and the players union which included the rules about sexual misconduct, assault, etc. The league conducted an investigation and found he violated the terms of that contract. He can appeal, sue the league, etc. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

                                I understand that. My original point is that I disagree with it, strongly. I don’t want anyone in any business to get suspended/fired/etc on an (as of yet) unproven allegation.

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                                  Then just say you do not agree with people’s right to contract freely.

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                                  Then just say you do not agree with people’s right to contract freely.

                                  I like to back up my opinion with reasons why I have that opinion. ;)

                                  “The sky is green, not blue!”
                                  “Why do you think that?”
                                  “Uh, BECAUSE, THAT’S WHY!”

                                  That doesn’t cut it for me. We all presented valid reasons for our opinions in this discussion, and that is appreciated. :)

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                                  Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                                  It’s not a right. He was hired by an MLB team. He has not legally broken any laws (as of yet, still needs to be proven). He went through the interview process, so to speak, and passed. Now, because of an accusation that has yet to be proven, he is now suspended. Have you tried out for an MLB team? If not, go for it. If you pass the process, sweet! (and first round is on you, right? ;) ) Just don’t get accused of anything unsavory.

                                  The MLB investigated this independently of the law for more than 10 months. They found evidence, apparently, that his behavior violated their code of conduct. Whether he’s guilty of a federal crime or not is completely irrelevant. The MLB and the investigative team found enough evidence that they felt comfortable enough to levy the longest suspension they’ve ever handed down. When he freely signed his 100 million dollar contract with the Dodgers he agreed to the terms of the domestic violence policy. The MLB seems to think they have enough evidence to suspend him. The legal system matters 0 to them.

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                                    Chalk up another for the “gets it” club

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                                    Who has decided I don’t have the talent? Your logic dictates that an MLB salary is a right. Why are my rights being violated?

                                    It’s not a right. He was hired by an MLB team. He has not legally broken any laws (as of yet, still needs to be proven). He went through the interview process, so to speak, and passed. Now, because of an accusation that has yet to be proven, he is now suspended. Have you tried out for an MLB team? If not, go for it. If you pass the process, sweet! (and first round is on you, right? ;) ) Just don’t get accused of anything unsavory.

                                    The MLB investigated this independently of the law for more than 10 months. They found evidence, apparently, that his behavior violated their code of conduct. Whether he’s guilty of a federal crime or not is completely irrelevant. The MLB and the investigative team found enough evidence that they felt comfortable enough to levy the longest suspension they’ve ever handed down. When he freely signed his 100 million dollar contract with the Dodgers he agreed to the terms of the domestic violence policy. The MLB seems to think they have enough evidence to suspend him. The legal system matters 0 to them.

                                     

                                    Let’s hear what the MLB found, then. Again, I know that is the agreement, and I disagree with said agreement. I hope that that agreement is altered in the future. As the old saying goes, and thanks to Ben Franklin:
                                    “It is better 100 guilty persons should escape than that one innocent person should suffer.”

                                    I don’t care if it is in a court of law, or a court of a business.

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                                      Your beef is with Trevor Bauer’s agent. Your quotation is ignorant by your own admission. I am hesitant to say this, but its not a great leap to wonder if you’re telling on yourself.

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                                      Your beef is with Trevor Bauer’s agent. Your quotation is ignorant by your own admission. I am hesitant to say this, but its not a great leap to wonder if you’re telling on yourself.

                                      It’s beyond the agent. The agent has to abide by the MLBPA and the MLB contract.

                                      And telling on myself? What the heck does that mean?

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                                      6’11” Mahtomedi native Sean Hjelle makes his MLB debut last night for the Giants (one inning pitched, one strike out). Tied with former Twin Jon Rauch as the tallest players in MLB history.

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                                        Ump I think he might be safe.

                                         

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                                        Ump I think he might be safe.

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                                        Doesn’t look like he ever touches the plate on the slide. The catcher also drops the ball on the tag. So he should not have made a safe or out call technically speaking. So assuming the rest of it proceeds the way it always does (runner going back to the dugout) he’s out for leaving the baseline. Umpire was just playing chess, everyone else is playing checkers ;)

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                                          After the catcher drops the ball the kid turns his foot and drags his toe while still on the ground I suspect to make sure he touched the plate. I have hard time believing the kid never touched the plate.

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                                          This is just disgusting.

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                                          WTF.

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                                            The Cincinnati Reds throw a no hitter this afternoon but lose. The Pittsburgh Pirates fans don’t get to see their team get a hit but they do see a 1-0 home win.

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                                            The Cincinnati Reds throw a no hitter this afternoon but lose. The Pittsburgh Pirates fans don’t get to see their team get a hit but they do see a 1-0 home win.

                                            Obviously very rare…….

                                             

                                            https://www.mlb.com/news/pitchers-to-throw-no-hitter-and-lose

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                                            This isn’t something you see every day either

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                                              Yeah you know a hitter is fooled when he swings at a pitch that goes between his legs. Pitchers are lethal. The pitches (movement and speed) are sometimes almost impossible to hit.

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                                              Ex-Twin Drew Butera, always known more for his glove than his bat, also is slick with his hat.

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                                              During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ballplayer will average about 500 at bats a season. That means I played seven years without ever hitting the ball. -Mickey Mantle
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                                                Will Tortuga remember us when he becomes the newest legend in South Beach?

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                                                Will Tortuga remember us when he becomes the newest legend in South Beach?

                                                I dunno if I want a Marlins jersey, though. :(  ;)

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                                                  La Tortuga back on the mound for MIA tonight. 1 IP, 1 walk. 0.00 ERA for the season.
                                                  I saw some video, but nothing linkable. :(

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                                                  La Tortuga back on the mound for MIA tonight. 1 IP, 1 walk. 0.00 ERA for the season.
                                                  I saw some video, but nothing linkable. :(

                                                  What were they thinking letting him pitch?   Don’t they know that guy has the worst work ethic.

                                                  😁

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                                                  The legend of La Tortuga continues in Miami.  Watching him running like he’s Byron Buxton is a really simple pleasure

                                                   

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                                                  The last LAA game…all walk up songs were Nickelback. C’MON, MAN!!!!!!!!

                                                  https://www.mlb.com/news/angels-walk-up-to-nickelback-songs

                                                   

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                                                  LOL:

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                                                  This is 2.5 games’ worth of pitches for most of today’s managers:

                                                  https://twitter.com/threeinningfan/status/1536720117698023426/photo/1

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                                                  A fighting Whioux game breaks out in the Angels/Mariners game.

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