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::Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.
Sano: Here, Detroit, you can win the game.
Detroit: No thanks, you take it
Sano: Oh, all right.
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::Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.
Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B
Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home.
IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.
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::Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.
Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B
Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home.
IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.
I disagree with your take that it was a miscommunication. When rounding first base, the entire play was in front of Sano. He needed to read both the throw and what the runners ahead of him were doing. Now rounding 2nd or 3rd is a different story when the runner can’t see what’s happening behind him. Sano made a bonehead decision and got away with it.
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::Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.
Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home. IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.
I disagree with your take that it was a miscommunication. When rounding first base, the entire play was in front of Sano. He needed to read both the throw and what the runners ahead of him were doing. Now rounding 2nd or 3rd is a different story when the runner can’t see what’s happening behind him. Sano made a bonehead decision and got away with it.
Sure. But when you’re running the bases you have a clock in the back of your head. Sano knows Larnach was probably tagging on the play, and there were almost 5 seconds between when the ball went over Grossman’s head and when he threw the ball back in. So in Sano’s mind, Larnach is an automatic send (any baseball player in the big leagues should be a send from 2nd base when they have even average foot speed – the avg foot speed is 27ft/s which equates to roughly 6.7 seconds from 2B to home plate). And when he sees the throw from the cutoff man to the plate, he knows Urshela should be going from 2B to 3B. It’s a safe bet he had no idea Larnach wasn’t trying to score. Especially when the relay throw went straight to the plate. He’s looking at the ball and the relay throw as he rounds 1B.
If he sees the ball go by him and then stops to check if Urshela is running too then there’s no point in moving to 2B because he’d be thrown out (on a good relay throw at least).
This is why teams have base coaches. To be the eyes for base runners and inform them of what is happening ahead of them.
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::Joe Ryan of the @Twins now has a WHIP of 0.74 in 9 career starts.
That's the lowest WHIP by any MLB pitcher over his first 9 career starts since Christy Mathewson from 1900-01 (0.70).
— Stats By STATS (@StatsBySTATS) April 28, 2022
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Considering they gave up a 40 year old DH, it is turning out to be one hell of a trade.
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::0.74…….
IIRC, 1.20 is kind of the borderline between good and great. 1.10-1.15….that’s a God DAMN!. Just my 2 cents.
Most of the league hasn’t seen him yet so there isn’t a lot of film for hitters to watch. Hopefully his stuff is good enough that hitters won’t figure him out after facing him multiple times.
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::Him getting through the 3-4-5 hitters for Detroit three times is a good sign. Then again, it’s Detroit.
I get your point but I was speaking more along the lines of hitters seeing him again in June, August, and late September.
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::538 Article about Buxton
Unsurprisingly for Twins fans, it comes down to “If Buxton could play most of the season, instead of less than half on average, he’d be the front-runner for MVP”
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::Him getting through the 3-4-5 hitters for Detroit three times is a good sign. Then again, it’s Detroit.
I get your point but I was speaking more along the lines of hitters seeing him again in June, August, and late September.
Oh I know and agree. We’ll see what happens. I highly doubt the 0.74 remains.
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::Twins win again today 7-1. Bit of a damper to the celebration in that Bailey Ober left the game with an injury. There was a run down that he was involved in and after the next pitch he grabbed his groin/upper quad area and then left the game. Hopefully nothing serious. He’s been very good this season.
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::Can of whup-ass has been opened.
Lineup definitely showing signs of life lately, excluding last night of course.
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::Can of whup-ass has been opened.
Was watching at LTD today…did NOT realize it was a replay from last night. Whoops.
I like today’s result much better.
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::After a series opening hiccup the Twins have been taking it to the Rays.
Byron Buxton, good at baseball. pic.twitter.com/s22c7eo22w
— Ted (@tlschwerz) May 1, 2022
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::#MNTwins announce the following roster moves to trim the roster from 28 to 26: pic.twitter.com/nkFy1CcRo0
— Minnesota Twins (@Twins) May 2, 2022
Jose Miranda officially joins the club!
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::Do I live under a rock? I did not know he was Lin’s cousin.
I got a cousin in the Major Leagues! Felicidades Primo! All the Mirandas are cheering! -LMM https://t.co/jCs29QpFNH
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::apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were. 😬 edited to delete the garbled quoted portion.
I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.
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::apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were.
I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.
I thought you educated youngins would know who created Hamilton. For anyone with kids he’s probably just as known for the music in both Moana and Encanto.
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::apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were.
I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.
I thought you educated youngins would know who created Hamilton. For anyone with kids he’s probably just as known for the music in both Moana and Encanto.
FWIW – I’m in my 40’s and my kids are teenagers and we all know who Lin-Manuel Miranda is…from Hamilton, Moana, and Encanto. And I’m certainly no theater buff.
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::apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were. 😬 edited to delete the garbled quoted portion.
I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.
Kris Humphries is the only reason I knew that the Kardashians exist.
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::Twins are streaking again! Ryan didn’t look nearly as good today, which is going to happen sometimes. The bullpen picked up the slack.
My fault. No luck last night, can’t keep the ball in the park tonight.
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::I watch a lot of twins and Wild through the ballys app when I’m working late. If I have to hear the commercial where the guy yells “daddy want, daddy need…” one more time I might throw something. Holy balls for annoying. Sometimes multiple times in one commercial break.
Incredibly annoying. I’d rather have nothing but that damn song that plays during a lot of the commercials, because the kid dances around to it shouting “this is my favorite song!” Pretty entertaining.
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::First career MLB homer for Jose Miranda!!
tick, tick… BOOM!
Jose Miranda hits his first MLB homer for the @Twins! pic.twitter.com/mJP9T3tXMm
— MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) May 7, 2022
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::That ball got out in a hurry. Congrats to Miranda. Kid can mash! His ability to jump in and play reasonably well at 1B is huge too, especially considering Sano is out a while and Kiriloff’s wrist has really hampered his swing.
Its a great opportunity for him too since he can’t possibly play worse than Sano.
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::Twins win 4-3 to sweep the Athletics; they’ve now won 14 of their past 17 games. Good to stay hot, as the White Sox have won 6 in a row and are back over .500
.823 winning percentage is a decent pace. :D
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::Well played kid. Is Buxton powered by Skittles? Is this why he gets hurt? Maybe drink more milk, eat more veggies and eat less skittles? Important questions that need answers.
Win-win trade. #MNTwins pic.twitter.com/2g8MQ6sRtR
— Twins Photography (@TwinsPics) May 9, 2022
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::Royce Lewis with his 1st MLB HR, and he gets a curtain call.
The first homer of Royce Lewis' career is … a GRAND SLAM?!
The No. 1 @Twins prospect hits a 🚀 that he'll never forget: pic.twitter.com/DzNgpFRrKS
— MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) May 14, 2022
We see you, Royce Lewis. 👏👏👏👏👏👏#TwinsWin! pic.twitter.com/3H4FdVPvHZ
— Minnesota Twins (@Twins) May 14, 2022
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::It's been a strong showing across the #MNTwins system so far.
Twins: 20-15, first place in AL Central
Triple-A St. Paul: 15-19
Double-A Wichita: 19-12, best record in league
High-A Cedar Rapids: 24-9, best record league
Low-A Fort Myers: 20-10, leading their division— Tom Froemming (@TFTwins) May 16, 2022
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::Twins score 14, and no HRs. That’s not common, IMO.
Just after I read your post, no more than 5 seconds later I look the tv and the ESPN score tracker has the Twins score and a stat that it’s the most runs by the Twins w/o a HR since 2010.
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::Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE192307071.shtml
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::Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s
20’s though. I know they say 1901 or so is modern era, but I really disagree with that. I’d lean towards 50s-60s, at LEAST 70s with DH and free agency. Then the “fireman” or “closer” was specialized…
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::Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s
20’s though. I know they say 1901 or so is modern era, but I really disagree with that. I’d lean towards 50s-60s, at LEAST 70s with DH and free agency. Then the “fireman” or “closer” was specialized…
I would agree with this..
“MLB considers the <b>post World War II era</b> to be the beginning of the modern age, which places the golden era between the end of World War I and the end of World War II. Much of baseball’s golden age was captured in black and white film, adding to the mystique and folklore of the game.”
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::Through 275 career games:
Luis Arraez – 302 hits, 51 doubles, 7 triples, 7 home runs, 92 RBI
Rod Carew – 296 hits, 55 doubles, 9 triples, 10 home runs, 99 RBI
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::I woke a few times this a.m. onve with the Twins down 1-6 or something and then again to.see they won 7-6. I didn’t check further for any other details.
I subsequently had a dream in which I was watching a replay of the game and Buxton had a groundball home run for a 1-0 lead, I then said to my wife I’m going to fast-forward to where they start the comeback.
Dreams can be weird.
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::davescharf saidThe Rube saidI guess this Twins game ISN’T over yet. Wow. Was 6-0 KC, now it’s 7-6 MN in the top of the 9th.
Was 6-0 going into the 8th too
Yet another reason why you should never change the way you’re playing the game (stealing bases, swinging at 3-0 pitches, bunting), no matter WHAT the score is.
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