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    Lol. How uncomfortable

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    Thank you Detroit.  Thank you very much!

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    Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.

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    Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.

    Sano:  Here, Detroit, you can win the game.

    Detroit: No thanks, you take it

    Sano: Oh, all right.

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    Sano had the special scouting report that said Tigers catcher struggles making throws with the game on the line. Everybody else is playing checkers Sano is playing chess.

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    Sano messed up twice there although the 2nd running gaff didn’t matter since the winning run crossed the plate already.

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    Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.

    Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B

     

    Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home.

     

    IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.

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    Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.

    Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B

    Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home.

    IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.

    I disagree with your take that it was a miscommunication. When rounding first base, the entire play was in front of Sano. He needed to read both the throw and what the runners ahead of him were doing. Now rounding 2nd or 3rd is a different story when the runner can’t see what’s happening behind him. Sano made a bonehead decision and got away with it.

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    Sano completely blows it with an AWFUL base running gaffe, but Detroit says “hold my beer” and it doesn’t matter.

    Neither one of those was really an “awful” baserunning gaffe as much as a miscommunication. When he was rounding 1B he read the relay throw to the plate and went to 2B. That’s what runners are supposed to do. He wasn’t aware that Watkins put up the stop sign on Larnach (and considering Watkins has waved everyone home all season so far, it’s kinda shocking even if it was a late stop sign as it sounded like on the radio broadcast). As a baserunner you’re generally not picking up the 3B coach until you’re preparing to round 2B (roughly half way to 2B). It’s the first base coach’s job to communicate with the batter-runner (Sano, in this case) what the guys ahead of him are doing and my guess is the 1B coach said “Read the throw” thinking Larnach was given the green light, and when Sano saw the throw he took off to 2B which is what he’s supposed to do. It’s hard to tell from the camera angles when Watkins gave Larnach the stop sign, but based on the way Larnach was running and rounding the base, it seemed to be relatively late. Urshela obviously saw the stop sign and retreated to 2B Once the catcher’s throw went into the outfield and it was clear Urshela was going to try to score, Sano’s job is 100% to get to third base. He knows Urshela is the game-winning run. So if the Tigers throw to 3B to get Sano then Urshela obviously scores and the game is over. If they throw to the plate, Sano needs to be on 3B in case Urshela is out at home. IDK what Larnach was doing that he wasn’t able to score easily on that ball. Even if you’re tagging on the potential catch, the ball was clearly not caught at the 4ish second mark (on the replay I was watching) and Grossman doesn’t pick it up and turn to throw it in until roughly 8 seconds. That should be more than enough time for any MLB player to already have rounded 3B and be on his way to score.

    I disagree with your take that it was a miscommunication. When rounding first base, the entire play was in front of Sano. He needed to read both the throw and what the runners ahead of him were doing. Now rounding 2nd or 3rd is a different story when the runner can’t see what’s happening behind him. Sano made a bonehead decision and got away with it.

    Sure. But when you’re running the bases you have a clock in the back of your head. Sano knows Larnach was probably tagging on the play, and there were almost 5 seconds between when the ball went over Grossman’s head and when he threw the ball back in. So in Sano’s mind, Larnach is an automatic send (any baseball player in the big leagues should be a send from 2nd base when they have even average foot speed – the avg foot speed is 27ft/s which equates to roughly 6.7 seconds from 2B to home plate). And when he sees the throw from the cutoff man to the plate, he knows Urshela should be going from 2B to 3B. It’s a safe bet he had no idea Larnach wasn’t trying to score. Especially when the relay throw went straight to the plate. He’s looking at the ball and the relay throw as he rounds 1B.

    If he sees the ball go by him and then stops to check if Urshela is running too then there’s no point in moving to 2B because he’d be thrown out (on a good relay throw at least).

    This is why teams have base coaches. To be the eyes for base runners and inform them of what is happening ahead of them.

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    I’m liking this Joe Ryan kid.

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    I’m liking this Joe Ryan kid.

    He is really fun to watch pitch.

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    0.74…….

     

    IIRC, 1.20 is kind of the borderline between good and great. 1.10-1.15….that’s a God DAMN!. Just my 2 cents.

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    The 2nd best result in 120 years is pretty freaking historic.

    And by a Twin not against one.

    Mind blown.

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    Considering they gave up a 40 year old DH, it is turning out to be one hell of a trade.

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    It’s nice to see that prospect Royce Lewis has gotten off to a nice start with the Saints after not playing for two years in a row.

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    I split this off from the old thread. Like many others, I prefer that we have just one season in a thread now.

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    0.74…….

    IIRC, 1.20 is kind of the borderline between good and great. 1.10-1.15….that’s a God DAMN!. Just my 2 cents.

    Most of the league hasn’t seen him yet so there isn’t a lot of film for hitters to watch. Hopefully his stuff is good enough that hitters won’t figure him out after facing him multiple times.

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    Him getting through the 3-4-5 hitters for Detroit three times is a good sign. Then again, it’s Detroit.

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    538 Article about Buxton

     

    We Want To Believe In Byron Buxton

     

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    Him getting through the 3-4-5 hitters for Detroit three times is a good sign. Then again, it’s Detroit.

    I get your point but I was speaking more along the lines of hitters seeing him again in June, August, and late September.

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    538 Article about Buxton

    We Want To Believe In Byron Buxton

    Unsurprisingly for Twins fans, it comes down to “If Buxton could play most of the season, instead of less than half on average, he’d be the front-runner for MVP”

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    Him getting through the 3-4-5 hitters for Detroit three times is a good sign. Then again, it’s Detroit.

    I get your point but I was speaking more along the lines of hitters seeing him again in June, August, and late September.

    Oh I know and agree. We’ll see what happens. I highly doubt the 0.74 remains.

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    Twins win again today 7-1. Bit of a damper to the celebration in that Bailey Ober left the game with an injury. There was a run down that he was involved in and after the next pitch he grabbed his groin/upper quad area and then left the game. Hopefully nothing serious. He’s been very good this season.

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    Bundy is getting shelled

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    Garlick hitting missiles out there today.

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    Can of whup-ass has been opened.

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    Can of whup-ass has been opened.

    Lineup definitely showing signs of life lately, excluding last night of course.

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    Can of whup-ass has been opened.

     

    Was watching at LTD today…did NOT realize it was a replay from last night. Whoops.

    I like today’s result much better.

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    After a series opening hiccup the Twins have been taking it to the Rays.

     

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    Larnach making things difficult when Kirilloff gets healthy.

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    Arraez just signed a new one year deal

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    Jose Miranda officially joins the club!

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    Twins win 2-1 tonight. Paddack with a great start and Jhoan Duran closed it out for his first save.

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    Do I live under a rock? I did not know he was Lin’s cousin.

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    apparently not as big a rock as me.  I didn’t know who either of those guys were.  😬

     

    edited to delete the garbled quoted portion.

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    apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were. 😬 edited to delete the garbled quoted portion.

     

    I am with you Cowgirl.  No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either.  I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.

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    My wife is at a conference in Baltimore and she is at the game tonight.  From the pictures she sent there is about a 1,000 people there.  They upgraded her seats to six rows up from first base when her seats were in the upper deck.

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    apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were.

    I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.

    I thought you educated youngins would know who created Hamilton.   For anyone with kids he’s probably just as known for the music in both Moana and Encanto.

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    apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were.

    I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.

    I thought you educated youngins would know who created Hamilton. For anyone with kids he’s probably just as known for the music in both Moana and Encanto.

     

    FWIW – I’m in my 40’s and my kids are teenagers and we all know who Lin-Manuel Miranda is…from Hamilton, Moana, and Encanto.  And I’m certainly no theater buff.

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    apparently not as big a rock as me. I didn’t know who either of those guys were. 😬 edited to delete the garbled quoted portion.

    I am with you Cowgirl. No idea who Lin-Manuel Miranda is either. I also didn’t know who Kim K was but I did know who Kris Humphries was.

     

    Kris Humphries is the only reason I knew that the Kardashians exist.

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    People finding out Jeffers exists too. This is fun.

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    Twins are streaking again! Ryan didn’t look nearly as good today, which is going to happen sometimes. The bullpen picked up the slack.

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    Twins are streaking again! Ryan didn’t look nearly as good today, which is going to happen sometimes. The bullpen picked up the slack.

    My fault. No luck last night, can’t keep the ball in the park tonight.

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    I watch a lot of twins and Wild through the ballys app when I’m working late.  If I have to hear the commercial where the guy yells “daddy want, daddy need…” one more time I might throw something.   Holy balls for annoying.  Sometimes multiple times in one commercial break.

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    I watch a lot of twins and Wild through the ballys app when I’m working late. If I have to hear the commercial where the guy yells “daddy want, daddy need…” one more time I might throw something. Holy balls for annoying. Sometimes multiple times in one commercial break.

    Incredibly annoying. I’d rather have nothing but that damn song that plays during a lot of the commercials, because the kid dances around to it shouting “this is my favorite song!”  Pretty entertaining.

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    Sounds like Correa is heading to the IL with a broken finger after getting hit by a pitch last night. Royce Lewis expected to be called up to make his MLB debut.

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    Correa avoids a fracture in his finger and an IL trip. Lewis still joins MLB roster, replacing Luis Arraez while he’s on the COVID list.

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    First career MLB homer for Jose Miranda!!

     

     

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    That ball got out in a hurry. Congrats to Miranda. Kid can mash! His ability to jump in and play reasonably well at 1B is huge too, especially considering Sano is out a while and Kiriloff’s wrist has really hampered his swing.

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    That ball got out in a hurry. Congrats to Miranda. Kid can mash! His ability to jump in and play reasonably well at 1B is huge too, especially considering Sano is out a while and Kiriloff’s wrist has really hampered his swing.

    Its a great opportunity for him too since he can’t possibly play worse than Sano.

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    Twins win 4-3 to sweep the Athletics; they’ve now won 14 of their past 17 games. Good to stay hot, as the White Sox have won 6 in a row and are back over .500

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    Twins win 4-3 to sweep the Athletics; they’ve now won 14 of their past 17 games. Good to stay hot, as the White Sox have won 6 in a row and are back over .500

    .823 winning percentage is a decent pace. :D

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    Well played kid. Is Buxton powered by Skittles? Is this why he gets hurt? Maybe drink more milk, eat more veggies and eat less skittles? Important questions that need answers.

     

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    Sounds like Chris Paddack may need tommy john surgery…

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    Clearly the Astros aren’t missing Correa.

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    Astros opened some cans of slo-pitch softball whoop ass on the Twins. Outscored 21-3 in the three games. Thankfully they return to the “Tier II” portion of the schedule tomorrow night, against Cleveland.

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    13 guys on the DL for the Twins doesn’t help, either.

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    Royce Lewis with his 1st MLB HR, and he gets a curtain call.

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    Twins score 14, and no HRs. That’s not common, IMO.

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    Twins score 14, and no HRs. That’s not common, IMO.

    Just after I read your post, no more than 5 seconds later I look the tv and the ESPN score tracker has the Twins score and a stat that it’s the most runs by the Twins w/o a HR since 2010.

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    What’s really funny is that HOU hit 5 HRs in an inning this week. :D

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    Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE192307071.shtml

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    Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s

     

    20’s though. I know they say 1901 or so is modern era, but I really disagree with that. I’d lean towards 50s-60s, at LEAST 70s with DH and free agency. Then the “fireman” or “closer” was specialized…

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    Because I’m a sucker for such things, apparently the record for runs scored without a home run is 27 by Cleveland back in the ‘20s

    20’s though. I know they say 1901 or so is modern era, but I really disagree with that. I’d lean towards 50s-60s, at LEAST 70s with DH and free agency. Then the “fireman” or “closer” was specialized…

    I would agree with this..

    “MLB considers the <b>post World War II era</b> to be the beginning of the modern age, which places the golden era between the end of World War I and the end of World War II. Much of baseball’s golden age was captured in black and white film, adding to the mystique and folklore of the game.”

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    I guess this Twins game ISN’T over yet. Wow. Was 6-0 KC, now it’s 7-6 MN in the top of the 9th.

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    I guess this Twins game ISN’T over yet. Wow. Was 6-0 KC, now it’s 7-6 MN in the top of the 9th.

    Was 6-0 going into the 8th too

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    Seems like every no name guy they plug in has been doing well lately.

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    was anyone else unable to use the Bally’s app to watch the twins today?

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    I woke a few times this a.m. onve with the Twins down 1-6 or something and then again to.see they won 7-6. I didn’t check further for any other details.

    I subsequently had a dream in which I was watching a replay of the game and Buxton had a groundball home run for a 1-0 lead, I then said to my wife I’m going to fast-forward to where they start the comeback.

    Dreams can be weird.

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    I guess this Twins game ISN’T over yet. Wow. Was 6-0 KC, now it’s 7-6 MN in the top of the 9th.

    Was 6-0 going into the 8th too

    Yet another reason why you should never change the way you’re playing the game (stealing bases, swinging at 3-0 pitches, bunting), no matter WHAT the score is.

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