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    Twins most recent first round pick:

    https://twitter.com/The_BPCsj/status/1477683820967120900?t=um-fcfP1k7Gr-xh60giX9Q&s=19

    Between his slider, fastball, and change-up, he has almost 3 feet of horizontal break on his pitches 😳😳😳

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    Cesar Tovar, Ron Gardenhire, Dan Gladden elected to Twins Hall of Fame

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    Twins have traded Mitch Garver to the Rangers for SS Isiah Kiner-Falefa and RHP Ronny Henriquez.

    Kiner-Falefa will be the starting SS. Not sure of details on the pitcher. I get the sense he was a throw in.

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    https://twitter.com/DanHayesMLB/status/1502684696584593410?t=uw7tRWB6Xu22wfVBCAib9Q&s=19

    Ronny Henriquez is the pitcher. 21 year old pitcher, threw 93 innings in minors between A and AA last season and struck out 105 hitters.

    In his minot league career he has a 3.85 ERA with 233 IP and 283 Ks.

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    Here is quote I found on the pitcher acquired in the deal.

    Henriquez was added to the Rangers’ 40-man roster earlier this offseason to protect him from the Rule 5 Draft and will slot in as one of the more intriguing pitching prospects in the Twins’ system. The 21-year-old righty recorded a solid 4.71 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 105/25 K/BB ratio across 93 2/3 innings between High-A Hickory and Double-A Frisco last year.

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    Interesting move. Petty was last year’s first round pick.

    Gray has two years left of team control and has been a very reliable starter throughout his career.

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    Twins great Isaiah Kiner-Falefa and Josh Donaldson are apparently about to be traded to the Yankees.

    Edit: For Gary Sanchez and Gio Urshela, it sounds like.

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    Shuckin’ and jivin’. It’ll be interesting to see how this all pans out.

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    Sounds like they may be moving Sanchez shortly too.

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    I’m having trouble following all of this now. Who’s going to play SS now and does this mean they think Miranda is ready for the big club? Are they thinking about possibly trying to free up Donaldson’s salary for some big pitching splash somehow?

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    Trevor Story is the rumor. Guess we see if it happens.

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    Now sources are saying they will keep Sanchez.

    Trevor Story would be an amazing signing.

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    Yankees Twitter bummed about losing Urshela it seems.

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    Karlsson wrote:


    Yankees Twitter bummed about losing Urshela it seems.

    He was very good for them.

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    Lots of Trevor Story steam.

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    I wonder if Donaldson and Cole will be roommates on Yankee road trips?

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    Dumping salary (Donaldson) that’s a Pohlad pocket protector tradition😂

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    Oh there’s definitely a ceiling they are maneuvering to create space under, they just won’t admit it.

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    Or they are cutting some money to actually make a big splash on a signing?

    Ok, I could barely type that with a straight face.

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    Breaking down the fascinating Yankees-Twins trade

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2316911

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    Got my opening day tickets!

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    Composer wrote:


    Got my opening day tickets!

    Wait – you need to be in Boston wearing your gold over maroon that day though!

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Composer wrote:


    Got my opening day tickets!

    Wait – you need to be in Boston wearing your gold over maroon that day though!

    Let’s see…. Twins are at 3:00. 2 hour game, 1 hour flight—Hey—maybe I can make it!

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    Hot start for the twins in spring training…. :mrgreen:

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    We are luring other teams into a false sense of security.

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    https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1505059921775243264?s=20&t=C5QnZ9t9OlCRHiQ0bEGQew

    Unexpected (all the steam was around Trevor Story) but huuuuuge get. He was probably the top free agent in this class.

    The first two picks in the 2012 draft are now teammates.

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    I will be contacting the Twins imminently about a garbage can banging position.

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    Correa’s contract gives him the 4th highest AAV in MLB. Behind only Scherzer (Mets), Cole (Yankees), and Trout (LA Angels).

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    Common with Rosen becomes must-listen radio on Monday.

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    Can he pitch?

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    Beauner wrote:


    https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1505059921775243264?s=20&t=C5QnZ9t9OlCRHiQ0bEGQew

    Unexpected (all the steam was around Trevor Story) but huuuuuge get. He was probably the top free agent in this class.

    The first two picks in the 2012 draft are now teammates.

    Basically this is 3 one year deals then.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    Can he pitch?

    Yeah, I love that the Twins are spending money but I think I would have rather had them just keep Kiner-Falefa and spend the Correa money on pitching.

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    Hm..I wonder what they might they do with Lewis now.

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    davescharf wrote:


    Beauner wrote:


    https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1505059921775243264?s=20&t=C5QnZ9t9OlCRHiQ0bEGQew

    Unexpected (all the steam was around Trevor Story) but huuuuuge get. He was probably the top free agent in this class.

    The first two picks in the 2012 draft are now teammates.

    Basically this is 3 one year deals then.

    Yeah…super good deal for the Twins. Why did CC agree to this? Couldn’t he have easily gotten something like 5 year 150 million?

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    Veteran reliever Joe Smith signs. Getting up there in age, but still pretty effective. Should munch up to 50 innings.

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    Idontknow wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    Can he pitch?

    Yeah, I love that the Twins are spending money but I think I would have rather had them just keep Kiner-Falefa and spend the Correa money on pitching.

    I tweeted earlier that this seems like someone putting racing slicks on a car with a 4 cylinder engine.

    It doesn’t make sense.

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    I do think they are still trying to make a move for another starting pitcher.

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    davescharf wrote:


    Beauner wrote:


    https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1505059921775243264?s=20&t=C5QnZ9t9OlCRHiQ0bEGQew

    Unexpected (all the steam was around Trevor Story) but huuuuuge get. He was probably the top free agent in this class.

    The first two picks in the 2012 draft are now teammates.

    Basically this is 3 one year deals then.


    Player option? To me that’s basically a one year deal then knowing the Twins.

    But hey at least they’re doing something

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    Hm..I wonder what they might they do with Lewis now.

    Unless Correia gets hurt, it’s really only a one year deal.

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    He’s the 4th highest AAV contract in MLB this season and will continue to be paid 35 million+ for each of the next two years if he wants it. If he plays out the duration, great. He’ll still only be 30 with plenty of years left to cash in on a big contract. The luxury tax threshold should go up each year based on the new CBA meaning a new contract in 2-3 years could theoretically pay more (unless the owners continue to intentionally suppress salaries).

    If he leaves early, whatever. The Twins top two offensive prospects are both shortstops. He fills a huge need for this team and makes this lineup ridiculously strong offensively and defensively.

    There are still a lot of rumors swirling that the Twins may make a deal with Oakland for Manaea or Montas (or both?) Which would make the rotation very interesting.

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    Yeah…super good deal for the Twins. Why did CC agree to this? Couldn’t he have easily gotten something like 5 year 150 million?

    He switched agents this year, so his old agency was entitled to the commission on this contract, but his new agent gets the commission on his next contract.

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    Maize wrote:


    Bigbeer wrote:


    Yeah…super good deal for the Twins. Why did CC agree to this? Couldn’t he have easily gotten something like 5 year 150 million?

    He switched agents this year, so his old agency was entitled to the commission on this contract, but his new agent gets the commission on his next contract.


    Sounds like one and done if that’s the case.

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    Probably, but if the season doesn’t go well he may be worth a ton at the deadline.

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    Chill Kessel wrote:


    Probably, but if the season doesn’t go well he may be worth a ton at the deadline.

    Exactly. I like this signing. Would love another ace, though. Hopefully they can work something out with Oakland.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    Can he pitch?

    Is he reading GPL?

    https://twitter.com/bmileskikfan/status/1505159052376084483?s=21

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    Maize wrote:


    Bigbeer wrote:


    Yeah…super good deal for the Twins. Why did CC agree to this? Couldn’t he have easily gotten something like 5 year 150 million?

    He switched agents this year, so his old agency was entitled to the commission on this contract, but his new agent gets the commission on his next contract.

    Is that how it works? I was under the impression that his old agency would only get the cut if he agreed to a deal he had been offered before switching to Boras. I have a hard time believing the Twins had offered him that contract before the lockout.

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    It likely is controlled by the contract he has with the agency.

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    Is that how it works? I was under the impression that his old agency would only get the cut if he agreed to a deal he had been offered before switching to Boras. I have a hard time believing the Twins had offered him that contract before the lockout.

    His former agency can file a claim based on any offer he received before the lockout, and they’d get commission on that, and the new agency gets the commission on whatever is left over, is how I understand it. Since Detroit reportedly offered $275M over 10, that’s a couple million dollars lost over every year of the deal.

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    Maize wrote:


    Beauner wrote:


    Is that how it works? I was under the impression that his old agency would only get the cut if he agreed to a deal he had been offered before switching to Boras. I have a hard time believing the Twins had offered him that contract before the lockout.

    His former agency can file a claim based on any offer he received before the lockout, and they’d get commission on that, and the new agency gets the commission on whatever is left over, is how I understand it. Since Detroit reportedly offered $275M over 10, that’s a couple million dollars lost over every year of the deal.

    But if the Twins didn’t offer before the lockout how would they have a claim on it?

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    Beauner wrote:


    Maize wrote:


    Beauner wrote:


    Is that how it works? I was under the impression that his old agency would only get the cut if he agreed to a deal he had been offered before switching to Boras. I have a hard time believing the Twins had offered him that contract before the lockout.

    His former agency can file a claim based on any offer he received before the lockout, and they’d get commission on that, and the new agency gets the commission on whatever is left over, is how I understand it. Since Detroit reportedly offered $275M over 10, that’s a couple million dollars lost over every year of the deal.

    But if the Twins didn’t offer before the lockout how would they have a claim on it?


    He turned down the Detroit offer to take this one?

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    Can he pitch?

    Yeah, I love that the Twins are spending money but I think I would have rather had them just keep Kiner-Falefa and spend the Correa money on pitching.

    IKF was dealt in the trade that opened up extra money for Correa. There is no “Correa money” if that doesn’t happen. They can still go trade for a pitcher just as they could have before, but now they have an insane upgrade both defensively and offensively at the position. It’s a no-brainer to get Correa here.

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    TheNameOnTheFront wrote:


    Idontknow wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    Can he pitch?

    Yeah, I love that the Twins are spending money but I think I would have rather had them just keep Kiner-Falefa and spend the Correa money on pitching.

    IKF was dealt in the trade that opened up extra money for Correa. There is no “Correa money” if that doesn’t happen. They can still go trade for a pitcher just as they could have before, but now they have an insane upgrade both defensively and offensively at the position. It’s a no-brainer to get Correa here.

    Pretty much this.

    The Twins traded Kiner-Falefa to offload Josh Donaldson’s contract. The Yankees had already expressed interest in IKF when he was with Texas but the Twins offer was better. So the Yankees contacted the Twins about trying to make a move for IKF. The Twins and Yankees worked out a deal. They then used the money saved from Donaldson to pay Correa. Correa is a better player than both of them.

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    TheNameOnTheFront wrote:


    Idontknow wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    Can he pitch?

    Yeah, I love that the Twins are spending money but I think I would have rather had them just keep Kiner-Falefa and spend the Correa money on pitching.

    IKF was dealt in the trade that opened up extra money for Correa. There is no “Correa money” if that doesn’t happen. They can still go trade for a pitcher just as they could have before, but now they have an insane upgrade both defensively and offensively at the position. It’s a no-brainer to get Correa here.

    I guess if you run under the assumption there was no other way to dump Donaldson, sure.

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    CollegeHockeyAddict wrote:


    https://twitter.com/DanHayesMLB/status/1506642504443207692

    Now that it’s not just the occasional treat, hopefully he doesn’t become the modern version of Bob “Fat” Fothergill. :mrgreen:

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    Iceburg wrote:


    CollegeHockeyAddict wrote:


    https://twitter.com/DanHayesMLB/status/1506642504443207692

    Now that it’s not just the occasional treat, hopefully he doesn’t become the modern version of Bob “Fat” Fothergill. :mrgreen:


    I just hope his work ethic is half as good as Astudillo’s.

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    It was only a matter of time before somebody brought up Astudillo.

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    [media]https://twitter.com/PioneerPress/status/1506775704654028805?s=20&t=doUqsYzx3meTEJWqptQmmQ[/media]

    Not hard to read this as “Going to MN because I can put up numbers there and then get a big market team to give me $300 million”

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    Twins sign Correa to sell tickets. Which is working as ticket sales have skyrocketed since the signing.

    Truth is that the Twins pitching is a dumpster fire.

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    Chill Kessel wrote:


    [media]https://twitter.com/PioneerPress/status/1506775704654028805?s=20&t=doUqsYzx3meTEJWqptQmmQ[/media]

    Not hard to read this as “Going to MN because I can put up numbers there and then get a big market team to give me $300 million”

    Gaad, that would suck…

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    Its obviously what is happening but i’d like to dream the the jucy lucy’s keep him here

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    [media]https://twitter.com/PioneerPress/status/1506775704654028805?s=20&t=doUqsYzx3meTEJWqptQmmQ[/media]

    Not hard to read this as “Going to MN because I can put up numbers there and then get a big market team to give me $300 million”

    The problem with that logic is his past success came against Twins pitchers. He doesn’t get to hit against them anymore.

    There’s also this

    https://twitter.com/dohyoungpark/status/1506723994996719621?s=20&t=dIe0Ah04Ut-vYpu7nrf3Ow

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    Beauner wrote:


    Chill Kessel wrote:


    [media]https://twitter.com/PioneerPress/status/1506775704654028805?s=20&t=doUqsYzx3meTEJWqptQmmQ[/media]

    Not hard to read this as “Going to MN because I can put up numbers there and then get a big market team to give me $300 million”

    The problem with that logic is his past success came against Twins pitchers. He doesn’t get to hit against them anymore.

    There’s also this

    https://twitter.com/dohyoungpark/status/1506723994996719621?s=20&t=dIe0Ah04Ut-vYpu7nrf3Ow


    Well, I would say that the organizational skill level on pitching is really, really well hidden. :lol:

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    If he was sold on the wonderful organization he wouldn’t have insisted on the opt outs. I’ve got twins colored glasses on and I won’t pretend his plan is to be a long term Twin.

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    This is the baseball version of Taylor Hall signing his deal with Buffalo for a year until the market improves. I’m ok with it.

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    Chill Kessel wrote:


    If he was sold on the wonderful organization he wouldn’t have insisted on the opt outs. I’ve got twins colored glasses on and I won’t pretend his plan is to be a long term Twin.

    Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. If it is, great. He’s a top 10-20 player in the league and obviously a gigantic boost offensively and defensively.

    If not, at least him being in the lineup this year gives Royce Lewis a chance to play baseball for the first time in two years without having to jump right to the show, and/or gives Austin Martin another year to develop. It’s literally a win-win for the Twins.

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    I agree. Thats exactly what it is

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