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    The cabinets are 30 years old. They aren’t in bad shape, but not great. I want to put in a stone countertop and am not sold on the idea of putting that over old cabinets. If I am going to do this (depends on price) I am thinking of ripping everything out and replacing flooring, cabinets, appliances, etc.

    In general, how are the quality of cabinets from a big box store? I haven’t dug into them and wanted to know if they were worth my time talking to.

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    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Another quick and easy option over stained wood is to use Minwax Polyshades. It is a stained varnish, and it actually looks very nice. The prep work is simple: just do a light sanding on the current varnish so that you have something for the Polyshade to “bite” on. Great product….I’ve used it on stair banisters and furniture, but you definitely can use it on cabinets too.

    Another option is to use gel stain. Both the Polyshade and gel stain can be found on youtube.

    Painting over stained wood is a little trickier. It takes several coats with sanding in between to hide the grain of the wood (assuming you’re starting with oak).

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    @Orion wrote:

    The cabinets are 30 years old. They aren’t in bad shape, but not great. I want to put in a stone countertop and am not sold on the idea of putting that over old cabinets. If I am going to do this (depends on price) I am thinking of ripping everything out and replacing flooring, cabinets, appliances, etc.

    In general, how are the quality of cabinets from a big box store? I haven’t dug into them and wanted to know if they were worth my time talking to.

    Every brand has good/better/best. You can go into a Kraftmaid or Thomasville and pick and choose some options on box construction (plywood vs particle board) as well as drawer construction.

    They are worth your time, especially if you are only thinking about getting info from a specialty shop.

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    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

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    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Probably easier for you to do that from down there than me doing it and delivering from Fargo! My dream is to quit my job and build cabinets full time, but I need to get a couple kids out of the house first!

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    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Speaking of that, I may soon have a very small job for you.

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    @Neat Hat wrote:

    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Speaking of that, I may soon have a very small job for you.

    Cabinets for house pets? :mrgreen:

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    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Probably easier for you to do that from down there than me doing it and delivering from Fargo! My dream is to quit my job and build cabinets full time, but I need to get a couple kids out of the house first!

    it was my dream as well, but reality set in…I know lots of guys that have tried and ended up failing long term because they can’t compete with the BIG companies or the small guys like me that as a side job for spending/fun money.

    W

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    @Neat Hat wrote:

    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Speaking of that, I may soon have a very small job for you.

    shop is open after the FF!

    W

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    @WPoS wrote:

    @Neat Hat wrote:

    @WPoS wrote:

    @MNGophers29 wrote:

    @Orion wrote:

    So talk of cabinets in another thread got me thinking about remodeling the kitchen. Question is who to ask about decent cabinets? Where do I start to find quality cabinets without going full custom? The concern is cost. I don’t need anything special and should be able to fit in standard cabinets.

    Do you currently have cabinets? If you do, are the boxes in good shape and are you happy with the layout? If so, check out refacing them as an option. 2-4 weeks vs 2-4 months. No disturbance to the functionality of your kitchen and they will look brand new for less than full remodel.

    There are hundreds of different brands, any of the big boxes would be a good place to start. All will talk to you about options, base prices, etc without the need to pay a large consult fee some of the specialty shops charge you.

    You can PM me for more information if you like. I am biased towards one company, but I will give you honest feedback. I also build cabinets myself too (not that I am selling my services) but I can offer a perspective from the sales side, the vendor side, the installation side and the construction of the cabinet viewpoint.

    or you can have them custom made for you by a fellow GPL-er and have the best of all worlds, quality, durability, custom and at a good cost. I’ll sell my services any day!

    W

    Speaking of that, I may soon have a very small job for you.

    shop is open after the FF!

    W

    And now it might not be as small as I thought. Wife mentioned having you build the bathroom vanity, instead of continuing the restoration of the old one we have….still not sure on that yet. We can talk more at F4.

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    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

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    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

    Our realtor is estimating that the house is already overpriced based on the comps–as much as 10%. Unfortunately the original buyer bought it new at the height of the market (2006) at over $30k what they’re asking now, so I know part of it is that they want to recoup as much of that as they can. Obviously we wouldn’t overpay, but still. The other part is that the area has a large range of house prices–it’s not just solely a newer (or older) development. So we were just concerned about the range of prices in the area, and just don’t know about the neighborhood.

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    rowshkex wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

    Our realtor is estimating that the house is already overpriced based on the comps–as much as 10%. Unfortunately the original buyer bought it new at the height of the market (2006) at over $30k what they’re asking now, so I know part of it is that they want to recoup as much of that as they can. Obviously we wouldn’t overpay, but still. The other part is that the area has a large range of house prices–it’s not just solely a newer (or older) development. So we were just concerned about the range of prices in the area, and just don’t know about the neighborhood.


    Good luck, I know you’ve been looking at this for a long time. Such a fun process!

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    rowshkex wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

    Our realtor is estimating that the house is already overpriced based on the comps–as much as 10%. Unfortunately the original buyer bought it new at the height of the market (2006) at over $30k what they’re asking now, so I know part of it is that they want to recoup as much of that as they can. Obviously we wouldn’t overpay, but still. The other part is that the area has a large range of house prices–it’s not just solely a newer (or older) development. So we were just concerned about the range of prices in the area, and just don’t know about the neighborhood.

    What part of LC?

    There are parts that are perfectly fine, and then there are some of the areas along the southern part off of Rice street that can get a little more sketchy near some of the apartments/ trailer parks near the Hoggsbreath

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    ^^^Fhawk fans hang out here^^^

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    Gopherguy05 wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

    Our realtor is estimating that the house is already overpriced based on the comps–as much as 10%. Unfortunately the original buyer bought it new at the height of the market (2006) at over $30k what they’re asking now, so I know part of it is that they want to recoup as much of that as they can. Obviously we wouldn’t overpay, but still. The other part is that the area has a large range of house prices–it’s not just solely a newer (or older) development. So we were just concerned about the range of prices in the area, and just don’t know about the neighborhood.

    What part of LC?

    There are parts that are perfectly fine, and then there are some of the areas along the southern part off of Rice street that can get a little more sketchy near some of the apartments/ trailer parks near the Hoggsbreath

    Near Pioneer Park on the north side of the city.

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    rowshkex wrote:


    Gopherguy05 wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Anyone have any insight about living in Little Canada? We are looking at a house that’s well above average home price in the zip code, but it seems like there are still new, expensive houses being built, so I’m curious if it is reasonable to expect Little Canada to increase in value over the next 5-7 years. That and I’m wondering about safety.

    I can’t speak to Little Canada but my first house was 25% above the rest of the area and there were significant concerns at time of sale as to whether or not the buyers mortgage company would appraise it high enough to allow the sale.

    Make sure you have comparables nearby to allow for assessment at time of sale or you could lose out on a ton of cash even if your house is nicer than most around you and worth every nickel.

    Even with the house we bought and having experience with the first house we found ourselves short on comparables. Most houses in the 5-10 year old development were same size but the house we bought had more finished space, big deck etc and the assessors had trouble finding comparables. Turns out the builder was putting homes up so fast a finished basement wasn’t an option. Ours was one of the few that was built and had a finished basement. Stupid little things.

    Our realtor is estimating that the house is already overpriced based on the comps–as much as 10%. Unfortunately the original buyer bought it new at the height of the market (2006) at over $30k what they’re asking now, so I know part of it is that they want to recoup as much of that as they can. Obviously we wouldn’t overpay, but still. The other part is that the area has a large range of house prices–it’s not just solely a newer (or older) development. So we were just concerned about the range of prices in the area, and just don’t know about the neighborhood.

    What part of LC?

    There are parts that are perfectly fine, and then there are some of the areas along the southern part off of Rice street that can get a little more sketchy near some of the apartments/ trailer parks near the Hoggsbreath

    Near Pioneer Park on the north side of the city.

    As far as I know there is nothing wrong with that part of LC. Just your normal suburb rif raf. Its a nice area.

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    I was going to tell you to be wary of train tracks in LC. My wife’s sister lives south of Round Lake and for a while the tracks near their home were heavily used and really loud. Of course, if an engineer leans on the horn for a while in the middle of the night it seems even louder. ;)

    It’s not as bad now as most of the traffic was due to oil production in ND but if that picks back up the noise could resume.

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    It’s good to know where the trains are. We love about 3/4 of a mile from tracks in Plymouth and it’s amazing how long them seem even without the horn. It doesn’t bother us but it just caught us by surprise when we started hearing them a lot

    The rule I know is not to buy the most expensive house in a neighborhood. We bought in august 2005 so it was definitely at the height of the market. It’s definitely up there in terms of neighborhood prices but it also has a screened in porch and more finished space so comps aren’t horrible

    Then the key question is whether you’re far enough away from GDO for your liking :D

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    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal.

    W

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    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…

    W

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    WPoS wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…especially in the back corner away from everything…

    W

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    WPoS wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…

    W


    You will when he pulls up that 187 lb gold nugget and the 600 karat diamond buried there.

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    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…

    W


    You will when he pulls up that 187 lb gold nugget and the 600 karat diamond buried there.

    doubt that will happen on the Anoka County sand plain. I’d be more concerned if a building was going up or something, but seriously it’s a bunch of woods.

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    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

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    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W


    Happened here too but in reverse. My neighbor thought the property line was farther his way – meaning I had more land. Odd situation that only happens in a city… he didn’ think I was doing a good job maintaining a patch of grass bordering his yard. I told him you don’t like it then you take care of it – it’s your damn yard. He protested, got it surveyed. I was right. Shut him up.

    I still mow that patch as I have much easier access to it than he does (on a terraced hillside between our house). But nothing else. No chemicals – don’t chase moles. He is a yard freak and I am not … at least now he is quiet about my negligence since he realizes he would have to drag his mower up the hill and onto the terrace if he wants to take care of it.

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    Crazy neighbors suck. I have fantastic people all around me, except the people that I share my back lot with. They purchased a couple years ago and my kids tried to go over and play with their kids and were ignored. They don’t wave, say hi, nothing.

    This winter I get an email from him stating that my dog has been shitting all over their back yard. I thought it was odd because I clean up two 5-gallon buckets every spring in the same spot of my own yard and he also has a black lab, so unless he has done some CSI analysis of my dog’s shit, I call BS. But, I took the high road and apologized and asked where it was and I would be happy to clean it up. No response.

    A month later I get another email from him telling me he watched my dog take his regular daily trek into his yard and he knows it is my dog dropping deuces all over. I took a picture of the very populous village of turds all in the same spot in my back yard AND the one set of dog prints I could find in the snow between our yards and emailed it back to him and told him that painting with a broad brush was not appreciated and I could do without his bombastic statements and subjective commentary. Haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

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    Crazy neighbors suck. I have fantastic people all around me, except the people that I share my back lot with. They purchased a couple years ago and my kids tried to go over and play with their kids and were ignored. They don’t wave, say hi, nothing.

    This winter I get an email from him stating that my dog has been shitting all over their back yard. I thought it was odd because I clean up two 5-gallon buckets every spring in the same spot of my own yard and he also has a black lab, so unless he has done some CSI analysis of my dog’s shit, I call BS. But, I took the high road and apologized and asked where it was and I would be happy to clean it up. No response.

    A month later I get another email from him telling me he watched my dog take his regular daily trek into his yard and he knows it is my dog dropping deuces all over. I took a picture of the very populous village of turds all in the same spot in my back yard AND the one set of dog prints I could find in the snow between our yards and emailed it back to him and told him that painting with a broad brush was not appreciated and I could do without his bombastic statements and subjective commentary. Haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

    Send him a flyer for a fence company and give him the Hakstol salute.

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    WPoS wrote:


    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W


    Happened here too but in reverse. My neighbor thought the property line was farther his way – meaning I had more land. Odd situation that only happens in a city… he didn’ think I was doing a good job maintaining a patch of grass bordering his yard. I told him you don’t like it then you take care of it – it’s your damn yard. He protested, got it surveyed. I was right. Shut him up.

    I still mow that patch as I have much easier access to it than he does (on a terraced hillside between our house). But nothing else. No chemicals – don’t chase moles. He is a yard freak and I am not … at least now he is quiet about my negligence since he realizes he would have to drag his mower up the hill and onto the terrace if he wants to take care of it.

    happens all the time around lakes

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    dryfly wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W


    Happened here too but in reverse. My neighbor thought the property line was farther his way – meaning I had more land. Odd situation that only happens in a city… he didn’ think I was doing a good job maintaining a patch of grass bordering his yard. I told him you don’t like it then you take care of it – it’s your damn yard. He protested, got it surveyed. I was right. Shut him up.

    I still mow that patch as I have much easier access to it than he does (on a terraced hillside between our house). But nothing else. No chemicals – don’t chase moles. He is a yard freak and I am not … at least now he is quiet about my negligence since he realizes he would have to drag his mower up the hill and onto the terrace if he wants to take care of it.


    happens all the time around lakes


    Might be a stupid question but why? I would think they want as much lakefront as possible – is it to avoid taxes? If I am not mistaken isn’t property tax proportional to how much lakeshore a property has or no? [ya I am totally ignorant here]

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    …..emailed it back to him and told him that painting with a broad brush was not appreciated and I could do without his bombastic statements and subjective commentary. Haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

    Could you send one of your special emails to J22?

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    :lol:

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    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

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    MNGophers29 wrote:

    …..emailed it back to him and told him that painting with a broad brush was not appreciated and I could do without his bombastic statements and subjective commentary. Haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

    Could you send one of your special emails to J22?


    Do you think it would actually help?!? I have been known to shut some people down with my sharp-tongued emails, but that is asking for a lot!

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    This housing market is so frustrating… Sorry just had to vent. :mrgreen:

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    This housing market is so frustrating… Sorry just had to vent. :mrgreen:

    Stay patient. It sucks, I know. I had put offers on 3 or 4 different houses that had been on the market for less than a day and got beat on all of them. But finally found one I really liked and was lucky enough to put the first offer on it. I thought it was never going to happen either but you’ll find the right one. :good2:

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    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

    Not evil, just worthless ;)

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

    It must be karma. :mrgreen:

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

    Well, you are in the basket of deplorables. :wink:

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

    A) you said it was illegal to move them…so why did you?? You may set yourself up for issues down the road; (and maybe that’s what your a-hole neighbor is going for).

    B) If your neighbor was that worried about it I would have told him to pay for a survey.

    Good luck, hope all this doesn’t come back to bite you in the ass.

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    Found a great house tonight, meeting with the realtor and submitting our offer first thing in the morning… Here’s to hoping…

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    WPoS wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    Populous village of turds. :lol:

    I think this describes several actual neighborhoods.

    I am fortunate that a hefty layer of buckthorn and trees separates my yard from those around me. Nobody has to worry about property lines. Even better, nobody can see what a mess my yard usually is….

    Um..so you’d think…the back of 4 acres of heavy woods is where this happened to me…an area I go a few times a year and really could care less. You’d be surprised. Yet someone had to be a d!ck about it and cause an issue and accuse me instead of finding a solution. Combative and just plain a-hole behavior. Because I’m SUCH an evil guy… :ahhh:

    W

    A) you said it was illegal to move them…so why did you?? You may set yourself up for issues down the road; (and maybe that’s what your a-hole neighbor is going for).

    B) If your neighbor was that worried about it I would have told him to pay for a survey.

    Good luck, hope all this doesn’t come back to bite you in the ass.

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

    you are as bad as he is I DIDN’T MOVE ANYTHING!

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

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    Found a great house tonight, meeting with the realtor and submitting our offer first thing in the morning… Here’s to hoping…


    Of course, the same thing happened again for the third time in a row: the seller wakes up the next morning and decides not to accept any more offers. WTF.

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    Cowgirl wrote:

    A) you said it was illegal to move them…so why did you?? You may set yourself up for issues down the road; (and maybe that’s what your a-hole neighbor is going for).

    B) If your neighbor was that worried about it I would have told him to pay for a survey.

    Good luck, hope all this doesn’t come back to bite you in the ass.

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

    you are as bad as he is I DIDN’T MOVE ANYTHING!

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

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    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W

    Maybe that’s why she thinks you moved it?

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    WPoS wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:

    A) you said it was illegal to move them…so why did you?? You may set yourself up for issues down the road; (and maybe that’s what your a-hole neighbor is going for).

    B) If your neighbor was that worried about it I would have told him to pay for a survey.

    Good luck, hope all this doesn’t come back to bite you in the ass.

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

    you are as bad as he is I DIDN’T MOVE ANYTHING!

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

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    WPoS wrote:


    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W

    Maybe that’s why she thinks you moved it?

    true, I DID move it to where he said it belonged, but I didn’t move it “originally” like he insists. He wouldn’t move it….maybe he’s setting me up. He thinks it’s a fellony to move them, but really a misdemeanor. And any judge would prolly toss the whole thing as silly since it was moved to his benefit and my detriment. Again, I could really care less. When it’s all said and done a survey would override everything he says or I say. I have a witness that watched the whole fiasco, But really, again all said and done…it’s woods that don’t really matter.

    W

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    rowshkex wrote:


    Found a great house tonight, meeting with the realtor and submitting our offer first thing in the morning… Here’s to hoping…


    Of course, the same thing happened again for the third time in a row: the seller wakes up the next morning and decides not to accept any more offers. WTF.


    Sorry to hear that. I know this won’t mean crap now, but when you finally get the home you want and love it, it will.

    I always looked at any house that the seller didn’t accept my offer or something came up or if it was a multiple offer situation where I didn’t get it like it wasn’t meant to be, I always found a house I loved and looked back that I was happy I didn’t get the other ones. I am in my 6th house now and I have felt that way every time.

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    rowshkex wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Found a great house tonight, meeting with the realtor and submitting our offer first thing in the morning… Here’s to hoping…


    Of course, the same thing happened again for the third time in a row: the seller wakes up the next morning and decides not to accept any more offers. WTF.


    Sorry to hear that. I know this won’t mean crap now, but when you finally get the home you want and love it, it will.

    I always looked at any house that the seller didn’t accept my offer or something came up or if it was a multiple offer situation where I didn’t get it like it wasn’t meant to be, I always found a house I loved and looked back that I was happy I didn’t get the other ones. I am in my 6th house now and I have felt that way every time.


    It’s not that I don’t think I’ll find a house I’ll be okay with–we’ve seen plenty we would be okay living in.

    It’s just extremely frustrating to have a seller give us just 10 hours to come up with an offer (mind you, all three houses were on the market for less than 24 hours at the time we were preparing to make an offer), then right as we are about to submit it they pull the rug out from under us. I even took off work this morning to finalize the offer because they said we could submit it in the morning. I wouldn’t even care if they looked at both offers and took the other one, but at least have the decency to stick to your word, let us make an offer, and be sincere about considering it if you say you’re going to do it. I understand it’s their prerogative to do whatever the hell they want with their own house, but it’s infuriating to put all this work in for nothing simply because the sellers aren’t at least minimally thoughtful.

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    About one year into owning my house my neighbor caught me outside to point out where our property markers were. I was like, “okay, thanks”. He pointed out, in a casual manner, that the back corner of my garage actually is on his property. Weird thing is how crooked the property line is which is why it catches a sliver of the back corner of my garage. I have a feeling that the marker in the front yard was moved at one time to make the line crooked. The neighbor really just wanted to make sure I knew about the property line, which I was fully aware of where is was but wasn’t concerned because the garage is about 30 years or so old which predates either of us living there. He did make the silly comment about “Don’t worry I won’t ask you to take down the garage.”

    Honestly, the one big downfall to this property line being crooked is that if I wanted to do any remodeling to my garage I would have to go kiss his ring to be able to touch the structure of the garage since part of it is on his property, in his eyes anyway. That kind of pisses me off because I would love to turn my garage into a double garage but I think I will have to wait out this older fella to move away before I get to that project.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…

    W


    You will when he pulls up that 187 lb gold nugget and the 600 karat diamond buried there.

    doubt that will happen on the Anoka County sand plain. I’d be more concerned if a building was going up or something, but seriously it’s a bunch of woods.

    W

    If he had the property surveyed he must be planning something near the property line. Wait until he puts it up. Have the property resurveyed, then if hes over the true property line, make him tear it down or pay you for the land he took. Win, Win.

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    MNGophers29 wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    Found a great house tonight, meeting with the realtor and submitting our offer first thing in the morning… Here’s to hoping…


    Of course, the same thing happened again for the third time in a row: the seller wakes up the next morning and decides not to accept any more offers. WTF.


    Sorry to hear that. I know this won’t mean crap now, but when you finally get the home you want and love it, it will.

    I always looked at any house that the seller didn’t accept my offer or something came up or if it was a multiple offer situation where I didn’t get it like it wasn’t meant to be, I always found a house I loved and looked back that I was happy I didn’t get the other ones. I am in my 6th house now and I have felt that way every time.


    It’s not that I don’t think I’ll find a house I’ll be okay with–we’ve seen plenty we would be okay living in.

    It’s just extremely frustrating to have a seller give us just 10 hours to come up with an offer (mind you, all three houses were on the market for less than 24 hours at the time we were preparing to make an offer), then right as we are about to submit it they pull the rug out from under us. I even took off work this morning to finalize the offer because they said we could submit it in the morning. I wouldn’t even care if they looked at both offers and took the other one, but at least have the decency to stick to your word, let us make an offer, and be sincere about considering it if you say you’re going to do it. I understand it’s their prerogative to do whatever the hell they want with their own house, but it’s infuriating to put all this work in for nothing simply because the sellers aren’t at least minimally thoughtful.


    That is pretty dickish. I guess you can get away with anything in a seller’s market. Shame on their agent for allowing them to do this.

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    We learned to put our offers in that day if we wanted a shot. Didn’t mean a heck of a lot when you get outbid, but it at least gave us a chance.

    The house we have now, we looked at, looked at another one we had set up to see, went back to the office and wrote the offer. Our Realtor called us two days later with the good news.

    And adding to the point of it being meant to be, it sounds silly, but I knew we’d get this house. There were things about it that gave me the feeling that it would be ours.

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    WPoS wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    so today get a call from one of my neighbors basically accusing me of moving a property marker iron…WTF? #1 back corner of the property where I hardly ever am and have zero plans to do anything…#2 it’s illegal (if placed by the county/state).

    W

    Did you tell them to get a surveyor out to prove it?

    He said he had it surveyed….I could care a rats butt about 3000 sqft when I have 10 acres…

    W


    You will when he pulls up that 187 lb gold nugget and the 600 karat diamond buried there.

    doubt that will happen on the Anoka County sand plain. I’d be more concerned if a building was going up or something, but seriously it’s a bunch of woods.

    W

    If he had the property surveyed he must be planning something near the property line. Wait until he puts it up. Have the property resurveyed, then if hes over the true property line, make him tear it down or pay you for the land he took. Win, Win.

    well had a survey in his stupid hand. I have no idea what this whole thing was about. None of it makes sense…literally 10′ on one side of the property (unless he slyly did something with the East iron) is away from any of his structures and away from anything and of no real use…hence my frustration and annoyance. No fear if something ever happens a survey WILL be done and then we can argue whose survey is correct.

    W

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    WPoS wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:

    A) you said it was illegal to move them…so why did you?? You may set yourself up for issues down the road; (and maybe that’s what your a-hole neighbor is going for).

    B) If your neighbor was that worried about it I would have told him to pay for a survey.

    Good luck, hope all this doesn’t come back to bite you in the ass.

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

    you are as bad as he is I DIDN’T MOVE ANYTHING!

    :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

    W

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    well 2 hours of being accused and ganged up by this yahoo and his buddy (neighbor to the west of us) I asked where he wanted the damn thing and moved it (like 10′). I cut a new quad trail so I’m not NEAR the line and he can go sit and spin for all I care. I go back there maybe 12 times in a year…I personally think either he has a screw loose, he’s just a d!ck or he was trying to grab land from me. All said and done I hope to never see either of them again in my lifetime and hope they end up living in wisconSIN in their end years and are part of a “Only in wisconSIN” story someday. If I ever sell, I’m gonna warn the new people and or get a survey done myself and shove it up his backside. fraking nut jobs….

    W

    Maybe that’s why she thinks you moved it?

    Correct.

    Thanks for the backup Mel…;)

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    Dumb questions as follow up:

    1) who can do “official” property surveys?

    2) if the property markers are improperly located, who is authorized to move them to the correct location?

    If the neighbor had an official survey, why was the placement of the marker not corrected……

    I think worthrless’ neighbor is up to something fishy.

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    Huuuuuuuuuge tracts of land?

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    Dumb questions as follow up:

    1) who can do “official” property surveys?

    2) if the property markers are improperly located, who is authorized to move them to the correct location?

    If the neighbor had an official survey, why was the placement of the marker not corrected……

    I think worthrless’ neighbor is up to something fishy.


    Most engineering companies can do the survey I believe. I don’t know that they move markers, but the ones I have dealt with mark the property line with a flag or pole.

    I am guessing it all depends on what is currently the marker for the line. Some places use posts while others have pins in the ground which can be tough to find and equally tough to move.

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    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

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    WPoS wrote:


    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

    Yeah, that sounds like a non-official, not placed by the county type of marker. Could have been the former owners of the two properties saying:

    “Here?”

    “Yeah, close enough, neither of us ever come back here anyway”

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    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

    Time to pull out the big guns. :lol:

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCFmSFvIZw[/media]

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    In a karmic stroke of luck…

    As I’ve mentioned before, we were going to make an offer on a house two days ago that had been on the market for less than 24 hours. We saw the house and told the sellers we were planning on making an offer. They allowed us to submit the offer the following morning, and so I stayed up pretty late finishing some stuff up and writing a letter to the sellers, then took off work the following morning to finalize the purchase agreement… Only to wake up the following morning to an email with the subject “Bad News”–the sellers went back on their word and decided not to let us make an offer.

    …So at the same time, our realtor was informed by her coworker about a “pre-list” that wasn’t even on the market, and our realtor told them that we would be interested in the property, but were planning on making an offer on that first house. So of course this gives us leverage, and the seller of House B let us see the house over a week before its listing date, apparently because he wants to sell the house quickly and NOT deal with the market. So we looked at the house tonight and submitted a purchase agreement.

    Barring something crazy happening, we just bought our first home, a house that wasn’t even on the market after getting shivved by several previous sellers.

    :dance: :dup:

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    We bought our house that never hit the market 3 years ago thru my friend who is a realtor. Same kinda deal….membership has its privileges….

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    In a karmic stroke of luck…

    As I’ve mentioned before, we were going to make an offer on a house two days ago that had been on the market for less than 24 hours. We saw the house and told the sellers we were planning on making an offer. They allowed us to submit the offer the following morning, and so I stayed up pretty late finishing some stuff up and writing a letter to the sellers, then took off work the following morning to finalize the purchase agreement… Only to wake up the following morning to an email with the subject “Bad News”–the sellers went back on their word and decided not to let us make an offer.

    …So at the same time, our realtor was informed by her coworker about a “pre-list” that wasn’t even on the market, and our realtor told them that we would be interested in the property, but were planning on making an offer on that first house. So of course this gives us leverage, and the seller of House B let us see the house over a week before its listing date, apparently because he wants to sell the house quickly and NOT deal with the market. So we looked at the house tonight and submitted a purchase agreement.

    Barring something crazy happening, we just bought our first home, a house that wasn’t even on the market after getting shivved by several previous sellers.

    :dance: :dup:

    Congrats and welcome to adulthood

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    In a karmic stroke of luck…

    As I’ve mentioned before, we were going to make an offer on a house two days ago that had been on the market for less than 24 hours. We saw the house and told the sellers we were planning on making an offer. They allowed us to submit the offer the following morning, and so I stayed up pretty late finishing some stuff up and writing a letter to the sellers, then took off work the following morning to finalize the purchase agreement… Only to wake up the following morning to an email with the subject “Bad News”–the sellers went back on their word and decided not to let us make an offer.

    …So at the same time, our realtor was informed by her coworker about a “pre-list” that wasn’t even on the market, and our realtor told them that we would be interested in the property, but were planning on making an offer on that first house. So of course this gives us leverage, and the seller of House B let us see the house over a week before its listing date, apparently because he wants to sell the house quickly and NOT deal with the market. So we looked at the house tonight and submitted a purchase agreement.

    Barring something crazy happening, we just bought our first home, a house that wasn’t even on the market after getting shivved by several previous sellers.

    :dance: :dup:

    Congrats.

    As echoed above, if it’s meant to be, it will happen.

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    That is really great news. Let the work begin!

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    Networking among realtors is how a lot of sales happen. When my wife and I got married in 2005 we put her townhouse on the market and it was one of 4 in that complex of 60+ units that was for sale. Our realtor’s backup person had a young couple looking for a house that kind of fit ours and eventually the house sold in less than a week while the others were on the market for 30-90 days depending on the unit.

    Everyone seems to know a ‘good’ realtor but the very good/outstanding ones are the ones that can network and find a purchase or sale in situations like you described Rowshex. Hope it all works out.

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    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

    First, I am not a lawyer, am not telling you to do anything specifically, and am going off vague memories. I could be completely wrong.

    I thought I heard long ago that if you saw your land being used, thought it was wrong, and didn’t say anything that eventually the other land owner would gain a lien on the use if the property that allowed them to keep things there and use it even if you actually own it. Again, I am not sure but if there is a dispute it seems best to get it resolved now rather than when trying to sell.

    I hope it all works out for the best and without issue. Good luck.

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    WPoS wrote:


    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

    First, I am not a lawyer, am not telling you to do anything specifically, and am going off vague memories. I could be completely wrong.

    I thought I heard long ago that if you saw your land being used, thought it was wrong, and didn’t say anything that eventually the other land owner would gain a lien on the use if the property that allowed them to keep things there and use it even if you actually own it. Again, I am not sure but if there is a dispute it seems best to get it resolved now rather than when trying to sell.

    I hope it all works out for the best and without issue. Good luck.


    At first I was thinking you were talking about an easement, but then I recall adverse possession and I found this online. It is in Ohio and it sounds like it is MUCH harder to take ownership of the land than just time passing.

    Quote:

    first, the time period is 21 years so you should be well within the time period to prevent a claim of adverse possession.

    several other elements must be met as well.

    Open and notorious use of the property: the use must be obvious or should be obvious if the owner paid any attention to their property.

    exclusive possession: this means just what it says, If the disputed land is also used by the true owner, the claim fails (this is where the thing about your folks mowing it once in awhile killing the claim comes in)

    adverse to the owners intent: if an owner allows or permits the other party to enter the land, it is called permissive use. Permissive use prevents an adverse possession claim.

    So, if your parents do not want the guy on the land, they should send him a certified letter stating so. If they don’t mind him being on the land and mowing or anything else for that matter, they should send him a certified letter letting him know they grant him permission to enter that section of the property.

    those acts alone will prevent an adverse possession claim from maturing.

    There is also something called a prescriptive easement. In an adverse possession claim, the possessor can actually end up with title to the land. With a prescriptive easement, they do not end up owning the land but can legally claim use of the land. That too requires 21 years of time to pass. It does not require exclusive use but it does need to be adverse. Again, granting permissive use or disallowing use prevents a PE claim.

    especially if they believe the neighbor might attempt to make a claim to the land either via AP or a PE, your parents should document the actions they take to prevent the neighbor from being able to make a claim and for the AP situation, activities or actions the have on the land in question.

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    What are some good home insurance providers?

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    What are some good home insurance providers?

    I recommend you find a broker who can find your needs and compare policies across a bunch of insurance companies.

    I used to shop around for insurance companies, not wanting to pay the broker. But I’ve since found I get much better rates through a broker.

    FWIW we are now using Travelers for our insurance (home, auto, liability, etc). But every company is different since each person has their own liabilities (DUI, credit rating, insurance history, etc). Some are better for one category and not another.

    I had Farmers for 20 years. They were never a problem but their rates creeped up every year until they were close to $1000 per year more than PROGRESSIVE! Had to switch.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    What are some good home insurance providers?

    I recommend you find a broker who can find your needs and compare policies across a bunch of insurance companies.

    I used to shop around for insurance companies, not wanting to pay the broker. But I’ve since found I get much better rates through a broker.

    FWIW we are now using Travelers for our insurance (home, auto, liability, etc). But every company is different since each person has their own liabilities (DUI, credit rating, insurance history, etc). Some are better for one category and not another.

    I had Farmers for 20 years. They were never a problem but their rates creeped up every year until they were close to $1000 per year more than PROGRESSIVE! Had to switch.


    This. Depending on what else you have to insure, you always save more when you bundle, but yeah, shop around. Also, don’t be afraid to shop around every few years too.

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    MNGophers29 wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    rowshkex wrote:


    What are some good home insurance providers?


    I recommend you find a broker who can find your needs and compare policies across a bunch of insurance companies.

    I used to shop around for insurance companies, not wanting to pay the broker. But I’ve since found I get much better rates through a broker.

    FWIW we are now using Travelers for our insurance (home, auto, liability, etc). But every company is different since each person has their own liabilities (DUI, credit rating, insurance history, etc). Some are better for one category and not another.

    I had Farmers for 20 years. They were never a problem but their rates creeped up every year until they were close to $1000 per year more than PROGRESSIVE! Had to switch.


    This. Depending on what else you have to insure, you always save more when you bundle, but yeah, shop around. Also, don’t be afraid to shop around every few years too.


    Yup – shop around then talk to brokers. Thing is everyone bitches about premiums until they have a major claim … then the premiums don’t matter so much – getting an adequate settlement does. So make sure you balance both – premiums and reputation to pay out. They aren’t all the same. Like others bundling helped for us.

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    gopheritall wrote:


    WPoS wrote:


    From what I read the official survey company can place them. When there is a discrepancy, which there are commonly, the two survey companies decide between them where the “spot” is.

    As for tough to move, not by a long shot. This was a 3/4″ x 10″ rod that I pulled out with 2 fingers. Hardly permanent.

    W

    First, I am not a lawyer, am not telling you to do anything specifically, and am going off vague memories. I could be completely wrong.

    I thought I heard long ago that if you saw your land being used, thought it was wrong, and didn’t say anything that eventually the other land owner would gain a lien on the use if the property that allowed them to keep things there and use it even if you actually own it. Again, I am not sure but if there is a dispute it seems best to get it resolved now rather than when trying to sell.

    I hope it all works out for the best and without issue. Good luck.


    At first I was thinking you were talking about an easement, but then I recall adverse possession and I found this online. It is in Ohio and it sounds like it is MUCH harder to take ownership of the land than just time passing.

    Quote:

    first, the time period is 21 years so you should be well within the time period to prevent a claim of adverse possession.

    several other elements must be met as well.

    Open and notorious use of the property: the use must be obvious or should be obvious if the owner paid any attention to their property.

    exclusive possession: this means just what it says, If the disputed land is also used by the true owner, the claim fails (this is where the thing about your folks mowing it once in awhile killing the claim comes in)

    adverse to the owners intent: if an owner allows or permits the other party to enter the land, it is called permissive use. Permissive use prevents an adverse possession claim.

    So, if your parents do not want the guy on the land, they should send him a certified letter stating so. If they don’t mind him being on the land and mowing or anything else for that matter, they should send him a certified letter letting him know they grant him permission to enter that section of the property.

    those acts alone will prevent an adverse possession claim from maturing.

    There is also something called a prescriptive easement. In an adverse possession claim, the possessor can actually end up with title to the land. With a prescriptive easement, they do not end up owning the land but can legally claim use of the land. That too requires 21 years of time to pass. It does not require exclusive use but it does need to be adverse. Again, granting permissive use or disallowing use prevents a PE claim.

    especially if they believe the neighbor might attempt to make a claim to the land either via AP or a PE, your parents should document the actions they take to prevent the neighbor from being able to make a claim and for the AP situation, activities or actions the have on the land in question.


    so to further the whole fiasco, at church on Sunday one of the people we know that knew the PO of our property said he had issues with this guy as well. So when we have the $$ I plan on a survey to nail this down and put a concrete pillar in to be done with it all.

    W

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