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    Steve MN wrote:


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    Steve nailed it. Barrel and Bad Weather had better beers and locations. Tin didn’t have food options either and will hit up Waldmann on occasion for their beer garden and german food.

    Clutch Brewing in Keg and Case in St Paul is thriving due to location, but the beer isn’t mind blowing. Lots of great food options and good location.

    Exactly, you can get by with good but not great beer, but your location has to have something else going for it to bring people in. Really good food can easily be that thing.

    That didn’t work well for Wayzata Brewworks.

    Oh wait, you said they needed to have good beer… ;)

    Yeah, if the beer is just bad (Blue Wolf up by me for example) location can’t overcome that.


    Covid did them in, didn’t it?

    Lockdown happened, take away their killer location, and all you were left with was just their pretty bad beer. Not a recipe for success!

    Even pre-covid, they never seemed all that busy. Definitely a good location overall, nice and easy to get to, Broadway Pizza right next door to grab food from, but the beer was at best meh, and more usually bad.

    Even a great location needs at least a solid product. Blue Wolf lacked that.


    And yet somehow, Bald Man survives… :conf2:

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    Viking wrote:


    And yet somehow, Bald Man survives… :conf2:


    :good2:

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    Viking wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    gopherguy13 wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    gopherguy06 wrote:


    Steve nailed it. Barrel and Bad Weather had better beers and locations. Tin didn’t have food options either and will hit up Waldmann on occasion for their beer garden and german food.

    Clutch Brewing in Keg and Case in St Paul is thriving due to location, but the beer isn’t mind blowing. Lots of great food options and good location.

    Exactly, you can get by with good but not great beer, but your location has to have something else going for it to bring people in. Really good food can easily be that thing.

    That didn’t work well for Wayzata Brewworks.

    Oh wait, you said they needed to have good beer… ;)

    Yeah, if the beer is just bad (Blue Wolf up by me for example) location can’t overcome that.


    Covid did them in, didn’t it?

    Lockdown happened, take away their killer location, and all you were left with was just their pretty bad beer. Not a recipe for success!

    Even pre-covid, they never seemed all that busy. Definitely a good location overall, nice and easy to get to, Broadway Pizza right next door to grab food from, but the beer was at best meh, and more usually bad.

    Even a great location needs at least a solid product. Blue Wolf lacked that.


    And yet somehow, Bald Man survives… :conf2:

    Bald Man is another one of those good, not great places. Certainly nothing groundbreaking, but I’ve never been revolted by anything I’ve had there. And they’re far enough out into the burbs where they don’t have a ton of competition.

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    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of

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    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of

    I grew up down that way so I’m pretty familiar with them. Giesenbrau in New Prague I am NOT a fan of. Boathouse Brothers in PL started off rough, but they’ve really improved over the last year. Badger Hill I feel has gone downhill lately. I believe they got a new head brewer and their stuff just hasn’t vibed with me lately.

    If you can make it all the way down to Montgomery, that one is kind of a gem. Super small taproom, their stouts and porters are really solid.

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    gopherguy13 wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of

    I grew up down that way so I’m pretty familiar with them. Giesenbrau in New Prague I am NOT a fan of. Boathouse Brothers in PL started off rough, but they’ve really improved over the last year. Badger Hill I feel has gone downhill lately. I believe they got a new head brewer and their stuff just hasn’t vibed with me lately.

    If you can make it all the way down to Montgomery, that one is kind of a gem. Super small taproom, their stouts and porters are really solid.

    I will have to check out Boathouse Brothers again. The first time I went a couple of years ago, I wasn’t that impressed. Shakopee Brewhall has some good selections.

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    eHo wrote:


    gopherguy13 wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of

    I grew up down that way so I’m pretty familiar with them. Giesenbrau in New Prague I am NOT a fan of. Boathouse Brothers in PL started off rough, but they’ve really improved over the last year. Badger Hill I feel has gone downhill lately. I believe they got a new head brewer and their stuff just hasn’t vibed with me lately.

    If you can make it all the way down to Montgomery, that one is kind of a gem. Super small taproom, their stouts and porters are really solid.

    I will have to check out Boathouse Brothers again. The first time I went a couple of years ago, I wasn’t that impressed. Shakopee Brewhall has some good selections.

    Yeah, the first year or so they were open, I was not very impressed. But kept going because 1) they’re both really nice guys and 2) I grew up in PL, parents still live there, and I really love the IDEA of having them on Main Street.

    What they’ve done with that building is amazing. Turned it from the dingy bar that the kids I went to high school with did drugs at, into the really cool taproom they have there now!

    The last year in particular they’ve really stepped it up and listened to their clientele on what works, and what doesn’t. I don’t think it’s award winning beer, but for a suburban/exurban brewery, it’s solid.

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    davescharf wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    gopherguy06 wrote:


    Steve nailed it. Barrel and Bad Weather had better beers and locations. Tin didn’t have food options either and will hit up Waldmann on occasion for their beer garden and german food.

    Clutch Brewing in Keg and Case in St Paul is thriving due to location, but the beer isn’t mind blowing. Lots of great food options and good location.

    Exactly, you can get by with good but not great beer, but your location has to have something else going for it to bring people in. Really good food can easily be that thing.

    That didn’t work well for Wayzata Brewworks.

    Oh wait, you said they needed to have good beer… ;)


    But the boat theme!!!!

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    Badger Hill has never really been my thing except for their Cherry Double Dunkel. When that first came out it was the best non-stout I’d ever had from a MN Brewery. Now the last batch of it (I think they’re making it every 2 years now) wasn’t really worth the trip down there to buy bottles.

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    Montgomery is solid. Baldman sucks. Dunno about Ineffable (their head brewer is now at Unmapped, which means their beer probably improved, he was an LTD brewer before Ineffable). Only time I ever had Tin Whiskers was at beer fests, and total meh. Never actively bought anything.

    Barrel Theory and Bad Weather are very good. I did like Angry Inch (Lakeville?) when I went a couple years ago. Lakeville Brewing was ok, too, but not outstanding.

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    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of


    Sounds like a good idea for a GPL outing. We just need a bus to haul us around. [mention]Armadillo[/mention] – side gig?? GPL brewery tours?

    Anybody got a bus they want to donate to the cause? :mrgreen:

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of


    Sounds like a good idea for a GPL outing. We just need a bus to haul us around. @Armadillo – side gig?? GPL brewery tours?

    Anybody got a bus they want to donate to the cause? :mrgreen:

    We could start with a good base at Ansari’s…..just saying.

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    The Rube wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of


    Sounds like a good idea for a GPL outing. We just need a bus to haul us around. @Armadillo – side gig?? GPL brewery tours?

    Anybody got a bus they want to donate to the cause? :mrgreen:

    We could start with a good base at Ansari’s…..just saying.


    If we start there, we might not leave… just saying.

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Someday I’ll get to the southern metro breweries. That’s one part of town we haven’t been to much of


    Sounds like a good idea for a GPL outing. We just need a bus to haul us around. @Armadillo – side gig?? GPL brewery tours?

    Anybody got a bus they want to donate to the cause? :mrgreen:

    Knowing this gang of misfits he’s require us to ride in a short bus

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    Oh, would you lot have to pay me HUGE to do that.

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    Steve MN wrote:


    Chill Kessel wrote:


    You fine gentlemen have given me an excuse to swing by Bad Weather on the way home today

    Glad to help :beerchug:

    Bad Wearher is a great stop if you’re going to something at the X

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    Boulevard brewery in Kansas City worth stopping at?

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    Idontknow wrote:


    Boulevard brewery in Kansas City worth stopping at?

    I haven’t been to the brewery but their beer is very good

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    Many years ago for work, I found myself in Kansas City for a weekend. Got checked into the hotel, went to grab a drink. They had 3 taps.

    Bud Light

    Miller Lite

    Boulevard unfiltered wheat

    Definitely a benefit to having a local brewery that’s not Bud/Coors/Miller, but has national distribution.

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    Bigbeer wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    Chill Kessel wrote:


    You fine gentlemen have given me an excuse to swing by Bad Weather on the way home today

    Glad to help :beerchug:

    Bad Wearher is a great stop if you’re going to something at the X

    It’s on my way home from work. I should see if I can open an account

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    Idontknow wrote:


    Boulevard brewery in Kansas City worth stopping at?

    I went a few years ago and found it to be enjoyable, but that was pre-covid years so I have no idea what may have changed

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    Far From the Tree cider tap house in Salem, Mass. If you like cider and have a vehicle while out in Boston, highly recommend.

    We also hit up Backbeat brewing in Beverly. The Cuban and pulled pork sandwiches we had were great. Reports are the beer was good; I had their hard “tonics” which were way too syrupy sweet and not what you expect for seltzer.

    Also some music – two old dudes playing drums and keyboard. (When I say old, I mean 60 ish. ;))

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    Lone Pine Brewing in Portland ME is phenomenal.

    Wasn’t sure what to expect with this – mostly tart margarita flavor. A little disappointed I don’t really taste donuts. :lol: [attachment=0]16490A2F-1964-4B54-A27D-B4D3126D8A27.jpeg[/attachment]

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    Had a Citrus Got Real from 56 Brewing. I found it very good. If you like citrus and blood orange in particular this one works.

    Also had a Mating Ritual which is a Blackstack/Ology double or triple IPA. It was 10% but did not drink like 10%. Felt like it an hour later though.

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    Lone Pine Brewing in Portland ME is phenomenal.

    Wasn’t sure what to expect with this – mostly tart margarita flavor. A little disappointed I don’t really taste donuts. :lol: 16490A2F-1964-4B54-A27D-B4D3126D8A27.jpeg

    Are you delivering to Plymouth? I mean MN and not MA :lol:

    I found out my parents are flying now instead of driving to Boston, but dad did agree to stop at Trillium and bring back a small amount of beer for me. Them flying likely saved me a lot of money in terms of how much I’d have had them get.

    On a totally different note we met some friends at Nine Mile down in Bloomington. The space is really large and it was pretty packed on Saturday night even at 5:30pm. For a place that just opened in mid-February the beer was better than a number of breweries that have been open for years. The only downside to being that busy is that they said they’re having trouble making beer fast enough to meet demand, but they still had 6 or 7 options while we were there.

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    Nine Mile ran out of one of their IPAs opening weekend. It was THAT crowded.

    Picked up a 2016 Oskar Blues Ten Fidy (silo can) this past weekend. It is so much in the sweet spot it’s sick. It was a 3 hour pour (to riff Gilligan’s Island).

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    Nine Mile ran out of one of their IPAs opening weekend. It was THAT crowded.

    Picked up a 2016 Oskar Blues Ten Fidy (silo can) this past weekend. It is so much in the sweet spot it’s sick. It was a 3 hour pour (to riff Gilligan’s Island).

    They ran out of their Hazy IPA when we were there.

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    I’ve heard good things.

    STILL no opening date on Bear Cave in Hopkins. Not a surprise.

    LTD is re-doing their bar, so closed for about 4 days starting Easter Sunday (will be open for to-go orders).

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    Term Oil S’mores from TG. Rich, decadent and all the S’mores you could possibly want

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    For those familiar with Perrin Brewing’s No Rules BA Vietnamese Porter, today was their release date. I’m loaded for bear. (They allow proxies :D and thanks to Mr And Mrs Melmac…)

    4 x No Rules 2022 Orange Chocolate

    4 x No Rules 2020 Mango Chili Variant

    4 x No Rules 2022

    3 x No Rules 5-Bottle Suitcase (5 year vertical)

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    Dad was kind enough to bring me home a few different stouts from Trillium while at the FF. Looking forward to trying them

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    davescharf wrote:


    Dad was kind enough to bring me home a few different stouts from Trillium while at the FF. Looking forward to trying them

    As a group, we had three of those stouts, two barrel aged, one Collab.

    All three were phenomenal

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    Lucca in Boston might have the best painkiller I’ve ever had. I’ve had two…debating a third.

    Prelude to Tampa…

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    Steve MN wrote:


    davescharf wrote:


    Dad was kind enough to bring me home a few different stouts from Trillium while at the FF. Looking forward to trying them

    As a group, we had three of those stouts, two barrel aged, one Collab.

    All three were phenomenal

    Interestingly enough none of the 3 you had were available to go. Dad picked up a bottle of one of their ‘Endless’ series (vanilla variant), Night and Day (a coffee imperial) and the Barrel Aged Almond Cake.

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    [mention]The Rube[/mention] – do you have any idea how busy the Forager bottle releases are now that they’ve gone back away from their lottery drawings? My neighbor and I are going to try and get some Nillerzzz on the 30th and I’m trying to figure out how early in the morning we’ll need to leave. We’re thinking about trying to get there by 8am.

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    @The Rube – do you have any idea how busy the Forager bottle releases are now that they’ve gone back away from their lottery drawings? My neighbor and I are going to try and get some Nillerzzz on the 30th and I’m trying to figure out how early in the morning we’ll need to leave. We’re thinking about trying to get there by 8am.

    I just saw that announcement. From what I HEAR, the flippers are basically gone, but 8am might still be too late. I think my target time will be 5am. So I either get up WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY early, or just leave after work Fri and sleep a little in my car after establishing my place in line,

    (which I have done before). IIRC, 5-6am was about the cutoff time for the last “line ride” they had, to be guaranteed all the bottles. Don’t quote me, though.

    This vanilla bean-based release? I’m so in.

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    @The Rube – do you have any idea how busy the Forager bottle releases are now that they’ve gone back away from their lottery drawings? My neighbor and I are going to try and get some Nillerzzz on the 30th and I’m trying to figure out how early in the morning we’ll need to leave. We’re thinking about trying to get there by 8am. I just saw that announcement. From what I HEAR, the flippers are basically gone, but 8am might still be too late. I think my target time will be 5am. So I either get up WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY early, or just leave after work Fri and sleep a little in my car after establishing my place in line, (which I have done before). IIRC, 5-6am was about the cutoff time for the last “line ride” they had, to be guaranteed all the bottles. Don’t quote me, though. This vanilla bean-based release? I’m so in.

    I think we’re going to leave at 5am and take our chances.

    I bought a 4 pack of Thor’s Fury Returns.  One of the last beers Hammerheart has made.  You get some of the trademark smokiness but not for long because you’re smacked in the face by the peppery heat and then smacked a couple more times for good measure.  I love heat and chilies in my beer but this is WAY over the top.  That said I like it but it will wreck your palate for the night and I doubt you’d want a second one right away.

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    I like to drink about 4-6oz of that Hammerheart beer, and that’s it. I agree it’s way over the top. They need to can the Dublin Raid again. That beer is phenomenal.

    And undecided about Forager, I’ve been having second thoughts. I bought 29 bottles from Perrin’s No Rules release for about twice the cost that Forager is charging for 6 bottles…while I LOVE Forager (and this particular release is really appealing to me)…do I really want to drop that dough (and time) for it?

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    https://beerdabbler.com/bear-cave-brewing-adds-an-upscale-self-pour-brewpub-to-downtown-hopkins/

    And they expect tips? LOLOLOLOL. I’m not setting a foot into that place, nor spending a single cent to support this hogwash. From the sounds of it, I can’t even order food (unless I maybe call in an order, and I don’t know if that’s even an option).

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    https://beerdabbler.com/bear-cave-brewing-adds-an-upscale-self-pour-brewpub-to-downtown-hopkins/ And they expect tips? LOLOLOLOL. I’m not setting a foot into that place, nor spending a single cent to support this hogwash. From the sounds of it, I can’t even order food (unless I maybe call in an order, and I don’t know if that’s even an option).

    I’m not sure where you are seeing in that linked article that you can’t order food.   It looks like a lot of other restaurants around town where you can order via a QR code and have food delivered to your table.   I’ll bet they even have people that will give people with older phones a real menu.

    I’ll give them a shot at some point since it’s close by but I’ll wait until they have something other than IPAs on tap.

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    I went down to the Nillerzzz release at Forager today.  Ended up getting there about 6:30am and there were only about 30 people in line.  I don’t know if the rain kept people away or if it’s “big beer release fatigue” but the line never even left the Forager parking lot.   A few people in line by us commented they’ve never seen it that short.  Once the rain stopped around 8:30 there was a lot more beer sharing and socialization going on.

    Once we got our bottles I ordered a Nillerzzz and one of the other stouts they sold today.   Nillerzzz is still one of the best beers made in MN (in my opinion) and the other was excellent.

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    I went down to the Nillerzzz release at Forager today. Ended up getting there about 6:30am and there were only about 30 people in line. I don’t know if the rain kept people away or if it’s “big beer release fatigue” but the line never even left the Forager parking lot. A few people in line by us commented they’ve never seen it that short. Once the rain stopped around 8:30 there was a lot more beer sharing and socialization going on. Once we got our bottles I ordered a Nillerzzz and one of the other stouts they sold today. Nillerzzz is still one of the best beers made in MN (in my opinion) and the other was excellent.

     

    1. I can’t order food at Bear Cave, b/c no smart phone.
    2. I skipped Forager, I have another big beer deal in the works, plus didn’t know when I had to get to Forager, etc.
    3. 30? Jesus. I know the Flippers are pretty much gone, but wow. That is an incredibly short line. The big beer prices could be a factor, also.
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    I went down to the Nillerzzz release at Forager today. Ended up getting there about 6:30am and there were only about 30 people in line. I don’t know if the rain kept people away or if it’s “big beer release fatigue” but the line never even left the Forager parking lot. A few people in line by us commented they’ve never seen it that short. Once the rain stopped around 8:30 there was a lot more beer sharing and socialization going on. Once we got our bottles I ordered a Nillerzzz and one of the other stouts they sold today. Nillerzzz is still one of the best beers made in MN (in my opinion) and the other was excellent.

    1. I can’t order food at Bear Cave, b/c no smart phone.
    2. I skipped Forager, I have another big beer deal in the works, plus didn’t know when I had to get to Forager, etc.
    3. 30? Jesus. I know the Flippers are pretty much gone, but wow. That is an incredibly short line. The big beer prices could be a factor, also.

    Yeah, those bottles weren’t cheap so that could be part of it too.  The guys in front of me were buying Lord Humungous while in line then going to the NB Liquor Barrel for their bourbon raffle. That had to be a really expensive day for them.

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    I went down to the Nillerzzz release at Forager today. Ended up getting there about 6:30am and there were only about 30 people in line. I don’t know if the rain kept people away or if it’s “big beer release fatigue” but the line never even left the Forager parking lot. A few people in line by us commented they’ve never seen it that short. Once the rain stopped around 8:30 there was a lot more beer sharing and socialization going on. Once we got our bottles I ordered a Nillerzzz and one of the other stouts they sold today. Nillerzzz is still one of the best beers made in MN (in my opinion) and the other was excellent.

    1. I can’t order food at Bear Cave, b/c no smart phone.
    2. I skipped Forager, I have another big beer deal in the works, plus didn’t know when I had to get to Forager, etc.
    3. 30? Jesus. I know the Flippers are pretty much gone, but wow. That is an incredibly short line. The big beer prices could be a factor, also.

    Yeah, those bottles weren’t cheap so that could be part of it too. The guys in front of me were buying Lord Humungous while in line then going to the NB Liquor Barrel for their bourbon raffle. That had to be a really expensive day for them.

    I’ll wait a year or two, and watch as the “Need To Clean Out My Cellar” sales pop up (which is actually the reason for the big beer deal I’m working on). :D Or, most likely, those Foragers and LH will show up at a bottle share. :)

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    Water Pipes by BlackStack is pretty good if you’re an IPA fan. If you aren’t, stay away from BlackStack. They make a ton of good IPAs.

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    Water Pipes by BlackStack is pretty good if you’re an IPA fan. If you aren’t, stay away from BlackStack. They make a ton of good IPAs.

    Was just there yesterday (along with Barrel Theory). Water Pipes is indeed a DANK IPA, so not really to my taste. Quality, but too much bitterness for me. I like me some hazies, though.

    Note: BT still has a ton of their Nocturnal Empire, a barrel aged stout w/Pistachio, Peanut Butter, Marshmallow, and Cacao. It was on tap and in bottles, had the short pour and bought a bottle. Excellent beer.

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    BlackStack is a definite niche brewery in my eyes. They do a good job in their wheelhouse, but I totally get that many people won’t like it

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    BlackStack is a definite niche brewery in my eyes. They do a good job in their wheelhouse, but I totally get that many people won’t like it

    Before it burned, the liquor store I was at always got the new BlackStack IPAs in, and we’d crack a can to test it out. More often than not, they were darn good. They rock the hazys, whether it be single, double, or triple. Always smooth.

    Yes, when it comes to Barrel Theory or BlackStack, get ready for IPAs or sours. BT does do stouts well, but that is not their focus. Definitely not BlackStack’s.

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    BlackStack is a definite niche brewery in my eyes. They do a good job in their wheelhouse, but I totally get that many people won’t like it

     

    I don’t know that a primarily IPA and sour brewery can be considered niche.

    I will drink IPA but I am much more into lagers and stouts.  I think I’ve had a total of 1 or 2 Blackstack beers total as a result

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    Hit up Ansari’s today, met up with a guy for a beer sale. They had Junkyard’s Nilla Beast (Imperial Stout) on tap. Holy hannah was that delicious. A decent price, too: 10 oz at $7/pour. They also had Toppling Goliath 2021 Assassin on tap, 4oz for $15 (which is smack dab in the middle of retail/secondary pricing; I have a bottle of that, so I passed), and Forager 2021 Nillerzzzz,  8oz for $14 (IIRC, just checked the menu, and apparently it’s tapped out since I was there today, lol).

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    Hit up Ansari’s today, met up with a guy for a beer sale. They had Junkyard’s Nilla Beast (Imperial Stout) on tap. Holy hannah was that delicious. A decent price, too: 10 oz at $7/pour. They also had Toppling Goliath 2021 Assassin on tap, 4oz for $15 (which is smack dab in the middle of retail/secondary pricing; I have a bottle of that, so I passed), and Forager 2021 Nillerzzzz, 8oz for $14 (IIRC, just checked the menu, and apparently it’s tapped out since I was there today, lol).

    nillerzzz was gone by the time we got there.  I nearly got the Nilla Beast but opted for something easier drinking since we’d been out all afternoon in the sun

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    Hit up Ansari’s today, met up with a guy for a beer sale. They had Junkyard’s Nilla Beast (Imperial Stout) on tap. Holy hannah was that delicious. A decent price, too: 10 oz at $7/pour. They also had Toppling Goliath 2021 Assassin on tap, 4oz for $15 (which is smack dab in the middle of retail/secondary pricing; I have a bottle of that, so I passed), and Forager 2021 Nillerzzzz, 8oz for $14 (IIRC, just checked the menu, and apparently it’s tapped out since I was there today, lol).

    nillerzzz was gone by the time we got there. I nearly got the Nilla Beast but opted for something easier drinking since we’d been out all afternoon in the sun

     

    The Nillerzzzz was a narrow window, then, I left at about 3ish. I guess that follows the pattern of the big beers there. Blink, and it could disappear.

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    It’s still got to pass the Senate which is a much iffier proposition.

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    It’s still got to pass the Senate which is a much iffier proposition.

    But a similar version already passed the Senate and they are early in the session, there’s plenty of time

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    It’s still got to pass the Senate which is a much iffier proposition.

    But a similar version already passed the Senate and they are early in the session, there’s plenty of time

    Have you watched the Minnesota legislature recently?

     

    I’ll be happy if it happens but cooperation and common sense from anyone over there is not a common trait.

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    Bear Cave in Hopkins was closed in the afternoons all week due to staffing issues. Not open at 11:30 am, but open at 4pm. This was after they ran out of food for the weekend on Sat, at about 4/5pm.

    What. A. Sh*tshow. I’m laughing at the incompetency. I truly am.

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    It’s still got to pass the Senate which is a much iffier proposition.

    But a similar version already passed the Senate and they are early in the session, there’s plenty of time

     

    Like I said…

     

     

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    So following Covid there had been a serious dearth of legit micro-style beers offered near me for quite some time.  3 local taprooms closed and a few spots that typically offered growlers had a difficult time keeping up with production.

    Then out of the blue I found that a local Korean bodega began offering 8 varieties from 2 different Korean micro breweries and I finally have a consistent source of some decent beers including an IPA, Double IPA and a Belgian White among them.

    Phew!

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    It’s still got to pass the Senate which is a much iffier proposition.

    But a similar version already passed the Senate and they are early in the session, there’s plenty of time

    Like I said…

    <p dir=”ltr” lang=”en”>NEW: #mnleg negotiators have struck a deal on liquor law changes. It allows small breweries and distillers to sell more product at taprooms. At first reading, a House provision allowing growler sales at large brewers isn’t included.https://t.co/LPjayGnoyW — Theo Keith (@TheoKeith) May 19, 2022</p>

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    <p dir=”ltr” lang=”en”>In: Town Team Baseball teams can get licenses to sell strong beer In: bars can be open extended hours for World Cup games Out: an industry council that would decide future changes — Theo Keith (@TheoKeith) May 19, 2022</p>

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    I said it would pass, I didn’t say what would be in it. Leave it to MN to take out the most important stuff for no reason but hey everyone can drink in bars at 5AM every 4 years.

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    Good news is that the growler clause IS in the bill. Keith screwed up his original tweet.

     

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    It’s 50K barrels, though, so I think that would still omit Surly/Schell’s/Summit, but would let Castle Danger/Fulton proceed.

    The formerly mentioned 3 don’t really need that option, IMO. I don’t think they are worried about it. The other on-site selling options might be enticing to them, though.

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    It’s 50K barrels, though, so I think that would still omit Surly/Schell’s/Summit, but would let Castle Danger/Fulton proceed. The formerly mentioned 3 don’t really need that option, IMO. I don’t think they are worried about it. The other on-site selling options might be enticing to them, though.

    the agreed upon bill is 150k, not 50K

     

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    It’s 50K barrels, though, so I think that would still omit Surly/Schell’s/Summit, but would let Castle Danger/Fulton proceed. The formerly mentioned 3 don’t really need that option, IMO. I don’t think they are worried about it. The other on-site selling options might be enticing to them, though.

    the agreed upon bill is 150k, not 50K

    150? Damn!

    I still stand by my statement. I think Surly/Summit/Schell’s distro swagger is too strong to worry about growlers. That’s a lot of pre-filling. None of them would do it “on-demand” like some breweries still do.

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    It’s 50K barrels, though, so I think that would still omit Surly/Schell’s/Summit, but would let Castle Danger/Fulton proceed. The formerly mentioned 3 don’t really need that option, IMO. I don’t think they are worried about it. The other on-site selling options might be enticing to them, though.

    the agreed upon bill is 150k, not 50K

    150? Damn! I still stand by my statement. I think Surly/Summit/Schell’s distro swagger is too strong to worry about growlers. That’s a lot of pre-filling. None of them would do it “on-demand” like some breweries still do.

    Maybe not but the fact they can if they want is a good thing.  I’m happier about buying smaller packaging direct at breweries.

    It’s nice you can buy 750ml spirits now but I kind of like the 375s.  We don’t drink a ton of spirits so the smaller bottles are nice

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    It’s 50K barrels, though, so I think that would still omit Surly/Schell’s/Summit, but would let Castle Danger/Fulton proceed. The formerly mentioned 3 don’t really need that option, IMO. I don’t think they are worried about it. The other on-site selling options might be enticing to them, though.

    the agreed upon bill is 150k, not 50K

    150? Damn! I still stand by my statement. I think Surly/Summit/Schell’s distro swagger is too strong to worry about growlers. That’s a lot of pre-filling. None of them would do it “on-demand” like some breweries still do.

    Maybe not but the fact they can if they want is a good thing. I’m happier about buying smaller packaging direct at breweries. It’s nice you can buy 750ml spirits now but I kind of like the 375s. We don’t drink a ton of spirits so the smaller bottles are nice

     

    The 4pks/6pks? The MN “S” breweries will be all about that.

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    Schell’s has really been pushing for the change to allow for growlers at their taproom.  I would imagine they would start doing more smaller batches if they could sell growlers onsite, but that is purely speculation.

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    How many places even sell actual “growlers” anymore?  The hubby always tries to collect them when we travel and go to breweries – out in Maine and Boston at the FF we struck out everywhere we went.

    Can crowlers are pretty much the only option in many places nowadays.

     

    (although it’s not a huge travesty seeing as there are already several hundred growlers on the property).  😂

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    How many places even sell actual “growlers” anymore?  The hubby always tries to collect them when we travel and go to breweries – out in Maine and Boston at the FF we struck out everywhere we went.

    Can crowlers are pretty much the only option in many places nowadays.

     

    (although it’s not a huge travesty seeing as there are already several hundred growlers on the property).  😂

    Not too many. Once a brewery is able to invest in canning, it’s much easier and economical to do so. Whether it’s distro or not, doesn’t matter. MUCH less maintenance and man power to do.

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    Had our annual Bottle Share Day today. Lots of good ribs, and when the first bottle cracked is a Forager Nillerzzzz…yeah, that’s a good day.

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    LTD Brewing is getting a slushie machine. If one has never had a beer slushie, you’re missing out. I think their “sours” (most are sweet/tart) are going to work well with this.

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    Just learned last night of Bricksworth brewing in Burnsville.  Grabbed some pizzas from there for dinner and am having one of their fruit sours.  All very good.  It is a neat and pretty big space, tucked in a business strip mall type area.

    I could almost walk there from my work….

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    Bricksworth is good.

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