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      Norm wrote…
      Eric Vegoe wrote…

      https://www.therinklive.com/mens-division-1/big-10/from-a-gambler-to-a-gopher-byrons-brody-lamb-will-join-u-of-m-hockey-team-this-fall?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=rinklive

      Here’s The Rink Live story on Lamb — college hockey isn’t the best place to ‘develop’ if the player isn’t ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.

      So we’ve gone from a logjam at forward to bringing guys in early.

      Yep. Losing the Lucius’s and Broz wasn’t ideal. Still don’t get the Broz one. Internal conflict w coaches?

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        You’ll have to wait for the head of nonsense negativity to return and tell you the leadership was bad

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          Norm wrote…
          Eric Vegoe wrote…

          https://www.therinklive.com/mens-division-1/big-10/from-a-gambler-to-a-gopher-byrons-brody-lamb-will-join-u-of-m-hockey-team-this-fall?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=rinklive

          Here’s The Rink Live story on Lamb — college hockey isn’t the best place to ‘develop’ if the player isn’t ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.

          So we’ve gone from a logjam at forward to bringing guys in early.

          Yep. Losing the Lucius’s and Broz wasn’t ideal. Still don’t get the Broz one. Internal conflict w coaches?

          Probably just as simple as wanting top 6 and PP time. Honestly the Lucius thing is more mysterious to me but I assume it’s related to the handling of his injury or whatever.

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          The Jets were calling the shots regarding Lucius.

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          Chill Kessel wrote…

          You’ll have to wait for the head of nonsense negativity to return and tell you the leadership was bad

          I get the feeling that he didn’t get just a timeout…that may be a “buh bye” to him.

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          Pronman’s latest rankings. Great read. For the 1st rounders, he has player comparisons. I put those in ( ).

          #3 Cooley ( compares him to Brayden Point )

          #27 Snuggerud ( Tanner Pearson )

          #29 Chesley ( Lindgren )

          #50 Rinzel

          #59 ( a former Gopher recruit )

           

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          Wheeler’s final draft list of the top 100 players, which is pretty close to Pronman’s list.

          #3 Cooley

          #26 Snuggerud

          #30 Chesley

          #52 Rinzel

          HM Luke Mittelstadt

          HM Kurth

           

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          Chris Peters final draft ranking. He ranks Rinzel higher than most.

          #1 Cooley — Praises Minnesota as a training ground for NHL, says Cooley will most likely be a 1 and done.

          #22 Chesley — Might be the most well rounded defenseman in the draft

          #26  Snuggerud — Well rounded, committed player who make others around him better

          #29 Rinzel — Rinzel is a very good skater for a player his size and has an innate ability to get pucks up ice with some incredible skill and vision.

          2022 NHL Draft Rankings: Logan Cooley tops Shane Wright in final list

           

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          Just a mock so obviously speculation, but saw one which had the Coyotes using their three first round picks on Cooley/Snuggerud/Rinzel. Would be fascinating.

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            If Chesley is available when the Wild pick it would be a no brainer imo. Rock solid 2 way right shot D. Definitely something the wild lack.

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            BlueBandit24 wrote…

            Just a mock so obviously speculation, but saw one which had the Coyotes using their three first round picks on Cooley/Snuggerud/Rinzel. Would be fascinating.

            That probably because the Coyotes have had a fixation with Gopher players.

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            NHL Draft Mailbag: Shane Wright’s dwindling consensus, highest-ceiling players and more

            What’s your Top 5 ‘top-ceiling’ players?”

            1. Logan Cooley: It’s a big reason I have him No. 1 overall. I think he has star potential relative to the class and could end up being its most impactful and exciting player.

            5. Sam Rinzel: A 6-foot-3 right-shot defenseman who needs a ton of development, I think Rinzel could be one of the real sleepers of the first round, but he’s going to need patience to become what I think his ceiling suggests he can be. He skates exceptionally well for a player his size, but I think the hockey sense still has a ways to go and some of the stuff he needs to fix can only come with experience. He needs tough competition on a regular basis and he should be getting it over the next few years.

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            The Gophers have their 3rd goalie.

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              Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

              Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

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              Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

              Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

              You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

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                Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

                Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

                You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

                Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.

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                Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

                Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

                You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

                Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.

                There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud.  Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board.  “Welcome to the team”….say out loud.  “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud.  Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.

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                Bertogliat wrote…
                Bertogliat wrote…

                Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

                Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

                You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

                Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.

                There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud.  Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board.  “Welcome to the team”….say out loud.  “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud.  Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.

                I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they’re not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It’s a tough job.

                That said, it’s hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn’t blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.

                Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn’t a negative sentiment. It’s a sensible opinion. Moreover, it’s not personal and it’s not permanent.  Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That’s good enough for me.

                I always root for the underdog, but they’re called underdogs for a reason.

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                This is where I can go to always find the cloud in the silver lining.

                :P

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                Bertogliat wrote…
                Bertogliat wrote…

                Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

                Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

                You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

                Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.

                There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud.  Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board.  “Welcome to the team”….say out loud.  “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud.  Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.

                I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they’re not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It’s a tough job.

                That said, it’s hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn’t blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.

                Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn’t a negative sentiment. It’s a sensible opinion. Moreover, it’s not personal and it’s not permanent.  Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That’s good enough for me.

                I always root for the underdog, but they’re called underdogs for a reason.

                Timing and tact.  If you want to knock a guy for bad play, be my guest.  But this kid just accepted an opportunity that he may be very excited about.  No need to shit on him for the league he played in last year.

                 

                If the team lacked talent at a position of great need and they grab a guy from the NAHL or N3HL, then I assume the coaches failed on some recruits they hoped to get and they took what they could get.  We’ve had head scratchers before. Then dump on the coaching staff, not the player.  But if they’re looking for a depth player- someone who may not see ice time in 4 years- why sweat it?

                 

                 

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                  I guess I am having a hard time understanding any negative sentiment for a “underdog” kid coming in to fill a role that isn’t high profile.

                  If anything, those are the guys you cheer hard for because any good (and unexpected) outcome by that type of player generally makes the team stronger.

                  I hope the kid comes in, works his butt off, and surprises some people (if he gets a chance to shine). :M:

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                    streakygopher wrote…
                    Bertogliat wrote…
                    Bertogliat wrote…

                    Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.

                    Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.

                    You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play.  What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?

                    Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.

                    There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud.  Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board.  “Welcome to the team”….say out loud.  “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud.  Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.

                    I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they’re not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It’s a tough job.

                    That said, it’s hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn’t blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.

                    Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn’t a negative sentiment. It’s a sensible opinion. Moreover, it’s not personal and it’s not permanent.  Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That’s good enough for me.

                    I always root for the underdog, but they’re called underdogs for a reason.

                    I don’t think this an unreasonable take ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                    I get that it’s a third stringer and he won’t play much so it’s likely not a big deal but as we saw last year you might actually need a capable third string goalie if a guy leaves. Making the jump from NA3 to NCAA is kind of unheard of so I get the comments. Ultimately he’s a gopher though so congrats to him and hopefully he’s a good locker room guy and practices hard etc.

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                      I recently listened to a podcast with former Gopher 3rd stringer Ryan Coyne who basically said when he was being recruited he knew he was a backup’s backup. I don’t think Wiese expects to play over Close or Bartoskziewicz but as we saw with Close, he definitely needs to be ready because the opportunity might present itself.

                      I have no doubt that Wiese and his family know the strangeness of his commitment but I think that adds to the excitement of it all. If he was able to go NA3HL to the Gophers of all programs he is undoubtedly a hard worker and high character guy.

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                      I guess I am having a hard time understanding any negative sentiment for a “underdog” kid coming in to fill a role that isn’t high profile.

                      If anything, those are the guys you cheer hard for because any good (and unexpected) outcome by that type of player generally makes the team stronger.

                      I hope the kid comes in, works his butt off, and surprises some people (if he gets a chance to shine). :M:

                      Reminds me of someone in the recent past.  I can’t quite remember his name, I feel like it’s on the tip of my tongue….so close….like really close….

                      a little help?

                       

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                      There is no current play to discuss regarding Wiese because he hasn’t even worn the M yet, and no one suggested players are above criticism once a season starts.

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